Eearn 5b ISK a month, starting with 0 SHIPS and 0 ISK and let Pandemic Horde pay for it. Learn how!

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UPDATE AUG 2024

It's hard to believe but true. In this tutorial, I'll show you how, even as an Alpha account with no money, no ship, and no skills, you can easily earn several billion a month.

Sounds crazy, right? Yes, it is, and you don't need a single ISK to do it... All you have to do: Leave highsec behind, apply to Pandemic Horde...the rest I'll show you in this video.

Caution, I'm a PvE noob, so there are certainly 100 other and better ways to make mooooore money there.

[emPtyspce]

I've extensively done PvE ratting in nullsec Dronelands, it's how I funded myself during WWB2 and I still do it on occasion (though I mostly did it when the NBI ratter was an Algos and not a Vexor), and here's what I can advise for those of you joining us here to make sure you're getting the most of your ratting isk:
1) If you're ratting in MJ-5F9, you're frankly asking to die. You might think it's safe because that's where everyone is, but the opposite is true. The reason is that you should always have your local channel popped out and stacked as tall as it can be when in nullsec so you can see everyone in your current system, and if someone who's not blue or green or purple shows up you should get out of there lickety-split and back into station. MJ has 320 people in it at the time of writing, and you just can't see everyone in system with that many, so someone could be in system and sneaking up on you. Standing fleet can respond quicker, sure, but against a hunting Loki who knows what they're doing when you're in a Vexor that's not a fight I'd feel confident in. Even one jump out is infinitely better.
2) Standing fleet is always hungry for PvP, the main ESI corp in Horde requires 15 kills a month and many people are looking to get that in standing, and will usually respond if you www, but they're the angry mob with pitchforks of Eve. We often bite off more than we can chew, and sometimes we have trouble responding quick enough. If you aren't in fleet, though, we can't warp to you and we can't save you, so always make sure you're in fleet. Do this before undocking, as someone hostile could invite you to a fleet when you undock and when you join fleet warp you directly into their trap.
3) Vexors are very isk efficient because T1 cruisers are cheap, but they aren't the best way to get isk ratting. Your progression here is Vexor > Gila/Ishtar > Paladin. I recommend the Gila for style points, but it's generally considered not as strong as the Ishtar, whatever, you decide. These two ships use medium drones, Infiltrators for the EM damage, so be aware the frigate and destroyer rats will target your drones so they need to die first. Please note that the expected upgrades, the Myrmidon and Dominix, are not in here. That's because they can't clear the site any faster, are more appealing gank bait, and are harder to warp off which makes them more likely to die in emergencies. I do some ratting in a Myrm when I'm bored, but it's honestly trash isk. You can also consider using ranged missiles for ratting, a cruise fit Praxis or Raven or Typhoon can work for this, but drones are really the best way to go because you don't have to reload drones and also you don't have to think nearly as hard. The benefit of missiles, though, is because it's something you actively do you're less likely to miss someone showing up in local. Paladins are nice because EM/Therm are the two primary weaknesses of the rogue drones you'll be fighting. You may hear rumors of a ratting Oracle, and it's possible if you fit polarized pulse lasers, but it requires skills (in-game and player) that are pretty advanced in order to make it work.
4) The bunker types of drone hordes are a pain in the ass. They don't have as much isk, they can take longer, and the turrets fuckin hurt. Some people recommend you skip them outright and only do the better version. I won't recommend that because isk is isk, but you should be aware that even if you're speed tanking the turrets have good tracking and can hit out to like 100km, even my active tanked Praxis has trouble keeping up with that dps. It sucks.
5) If you see a rat spawn with a diamond symbol, get the fuck out of that anom and report its location to standing with the code "ddd" because that's an infested carrier and it will push your shit in. You need either a dreadnought or a bunch of friends in stealth bombers orbiting it at 500m to kill those things, and they can kill you if they breathe at you.
6) When you're done with ratting for a while, be sure to fly a combat ship in Standing sometimes to give back to the community. It's a good way to scratch the PvP itch, especially since there's no doctrine rules beyond not yolo'ing a bling-fit Vargur or anything.

[WithmeVerissimusWhostoned]

She used to fight people, now she's fighting npcs, and soon she'll be fighting rocks.\o/

[eriksoekov]

Not a horde player, but from Slyce. We use the same trick with vexors and ishtars to earn AFK cash. Those ships do get blown up, but ironically more are lost to sentient carriers than people. And you nearly always end up in a net positive, so you just get a new one and the party continues. A lot of people run this during work hours, so that they could buy something expensive and do something stupid during their actual free time. It's a game after all.

As for Horde, I've been in their standing fleets. Very chaotic, but also very fun if you are not afraid to lose your ship. Definitely seems like a fun community.

[somebodyintheworld]

Couple of suggestions:
- Your vexor is flying T2 heavy drones. For new players, you likely wont have the skills to fly these, use Imperial Navy praetors instead. They cost about the same, have similar dps, and dont require high skills to use.
- Id recommend flying 2 heavies, 2 medium, 1 light drone instead of 3 heavies. Total on-paper DPS should be the same with this configuration, but because you have med and light drones out, you should have better application. So your total effective/applied DPS should be better than 3 heavy drones, resulting in better applied DPS and isk/hr.
- In this video, you rat in drone space. However, if you join PH and rat in non-drone space, you should also carry Mobile Tractor Units (MTU) with you to collect loot from the dead NPC ships. MTU's are not needed when fighting drones, as they dont usually drop anything of any value (faction spawns excluded). This loot is significant, and can make up 30% of your total income if you're killing NPC's other than drones.
- The generally accepted upgrade path for ratting after a vexor is usually Myrmidon > Ishtar. You can find people who also suggest using a Praxis, Gila or Dominix, somewhere in that progression but those are less generally accepted by players.
- Talk to somebody about your skill training plan. There are a number of skills that give you significant benefits to ratting that improve your dps and isk/hr. Not having the right skills or not training them out of ignorance can easily cost you 50% of your potential income, if not more.
- Set your drones to focus fire and auto attack

[BalefulStar]

They know that people is more important than some ISK, and it's a good investment in a long run

[FreshAMF]

I just maxed an alpha and want to take the dive into Omega. This video sold me. I applied. Hope to start earning again. Thanks for the video! - Charles F Taylor

[WarpingWombat]

Great Guide :D I was on the other side in Horde for some time. Buying all Escalations up on the Zulu Bazar and flying them myself

[CopGuyLoL]

I joined Horde around 6 months ago, the experience is totally different than what I expected. The amount of support, and programs they have to me is incredible. I had played for 2 years in High Sec, so I had experience in the game. But as a total new player you would learn multiple different things through their classes they offer, and they run often. They also cover a lot of different topics. The experience in Horde even coming from high sec and small null experience, is something unique I believe. Its slightly overwhelming at first, but patience and you can go from 0 to hero in Horde.

[DevelopedGames]

this is actually such a great advert for horde lol

[danspears]

Thats a great video and so true about the care packs of free stuff you get. One day a few years back decided i wanted to try nulsec life and just happen to pick and join Pandemic Horde, figured would have a bit of visit down there in Null, hang around a bit and see what all the mystery was about then head back up to my hisec corp predominantly mining. Never knew about the "care packs" until i first docked in the Beanstar and one of the Supporters in chat dropped it all on me, I was like you for real? thought it was pretty cool getting that stash of ships and skillbooks for free. i did all those skillbooks, had a crack at flying all those freebies, then you realise hey all that really just opens doors to so much other stuff you can do so you start thinking about hanging around bit longer to do the next step and see how that goes, anyway still havent made it back to hisec, still learning stuff, and theres still just so much content.

[Janetzky]

I only can support the message of this video. I am a bean for three weeks now and I had a blast. I still feel very welcome and everyone is super helpful!

[MattdeFreitas]

This is great - great video. Love your content

[sethsonnier]

This is the first video of yours I've stumbled upon it seems insanely valuable

[yohomie]

I have to say, if this is a recruitment video, it's working. I have been blown up by ph several times and am seriously considering joining. High sec is pretty boring. Thanks for the details, and enjoy your content

[Dunsie]

Great Video. Much love from the NBI team :D

[profirflorin]

I think it's the best video about EVE. Congratulations!

[PlayerSalt]

great video, i know you don't much like pve but stuff like this is massively useful for newer players and so few content creators actually make stuff aimed at new players making everything as simple as humanly possible. o7, I think most null bloc's offer something similar but making it this simple is a huge bonus!

[thecrimsonwhisker]

Saving this info lol, been playing even since 2006 off and on. Now i just want laid back content with a sprinkling if heart-stopping pvp lol

[ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xifb]

It's hard to believe but true. In this tutorial, I'll show you how, even as an Alpha account with no money, no ship, and no skills, you can easily earn several billion a month.
Sounds crazy, right? Yes, it is, and you don't need a single ISK to do it. How did you start making ISK when you began playing EVE Online?

[SuspiciousDragon]

I followed the steps in this video and have really enjoyed Pandemic Horde. They've been a great group to work with. Very helpful. 👍