John MacArthur on the Land/Kingdom Promised to Israel: A Progressive Covenantal Response

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You can watch the whole Progressive Covenantalism series in order here:

NorthAvenueChurch
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This is the big picture of redemption it is so wonderful, thankyou North Avenue church

davidperry
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Thank you for this teaching of the eternal eschaton of rest from the beginning.

roadkill
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EPHESIANS 6 1-3 is a real streach to refer to the new earth. "That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth."

lowrider
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Fantastic teaching!! It really makes the three stages of God's rest clear!!

DeanSpitzer
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37:35. another thing I find entertaining. protestants are form believers in sola scriptura, yet these two men are wildly apart in their interpretations of the same script. not only that, but this pastor routinely visits extra-biblical texts to justify his interpretation of the scriptures. so tell me, if it's valid to justify your interpretations of the bible by referencing people outside the bible, why isn't the majisterium also a valid means to attain biblical understanding of scripture? especially since the majesterium has been around for millenia?

clarkkent
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Jewish wedding symbolism:
(A gospel within the gospel)

"Let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me.

In my Father's house (in heaven) are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I WILL COME AGAIN, and receive you unto myself; *that where I am* there (in heaven) you may be also.

And where I go you know, and the way you know."

Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: *no man* comes unto the Father (who art in heaven), *but* by me."
{John 14:1-6}

--The time of the wedding was determined by the bridegroom's father and at the time determined by the father the bridegroom would fetch his bride and bring her back to his place prepared for them at his father's house.

And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
{Revelation 8:1}

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men
{2 Peter 3:7} (Jer 4:23-28, Zeph 3:6)

....
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
{2 Peter 3:13}

--The resurrected saints will enter in the gates of heaven into the new Jerusalem, that has been prepared for us *in heaven*

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
{Revelation 22:14}

(But *the rest of the dead* lived not again until the thousand years were finished.) This is the first resurrection.
{Revelation 20:5}
^
No man left alive on earth, after Jesus Christ comes again.

Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus will raise up us also by Jesus, and will present us with you (in heaven).
{2 Corinthians 4:14}

To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints*
{1 Thessalonians 3:13}

(The time of the wedding feast)
"But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you IN MY FATHER'S KINGDOM."
{Matthew 26:29}

--The saints, after the thousand years (tabernacle) in heaven, the saints of God will descend with the Father and the Son and the host of heaven, with the new city and we will be spectators in our Creator's new six day creation of the new heavens and of the new earth. (Rev 21:1, Is 66:22-23, Zach 8:3, 14:4)

And the goat (scapegoat) will bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land NOT INHABITED: and he will release the goat in the wilderness.
{Leviticus 16:22}

And when the thousand years are expired, satan (the literal Azazel the scapegoat) will be loosed out of his prison, (also chains of circumstance.)

(The resurrection of the condemnation.)
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

And will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, GOG and MAGOG, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and DEVOURED them.
{Revelation 20:7-9}

And the saints will sing;

O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?
{1 Corinthians 15:55}

--Like the children of Israel, the saints will have a dispensation (time) of tabernacle with God the Father and with his Son, our Lord Jesus Christ in heaven, before the inheritance (and our eternal kingdom, and home in the country) is given to the saints.
This being the new heavens and the new earth, that the nation of Israel symbolized in the type of the end time greater reality.

These [The Patriarchs] all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed THAT THEY WERE STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS ON THE EARTH.

For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.

And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.

But now they desire a better country, THAT IS AN HEAVENLY: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: *for he hath prepared for them a city*
{Romans 11:13-16}

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
{Matthew 5:12}

For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, *we have a building of God* an house not made with hands, eternal *in the heavens*
{2 Corinthians 5:1}

larrybedouin
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“For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father *with his angels* and then he shall reward *every man* according to his works.”
{Matthew 16:27}

“For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.”
{Luke 9:26}

*The chariots* of God are twenty thousand, even thousands *of angels* the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.
{Psalm 68:17}

Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: *who maketh the clouds his chariot* who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
{Psalm 104:3}

Behold, *he cometh with clouds* and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
{Revelation 1:7}

larrybedouin
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I was going to mention Daniel 2:44 where in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom, " and you mentioned it.
This is the SPIRITUAL Kingdom of the TRUE Israel and the Son of David, promised to sit on His throne forever, being fulfilled.
The Earthly/Natural throne of David was "Cast to the ground" (Psalm 89:39)

"You have renounced the covenant of Your servant; You have profaned his crown by casting it to the ground."

Everything in Adam, earthly, FAILED!
Only that which is the second Adam, Messiah, the True Israel, Jesus, will last forever!

rolysantos
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The state of the dead, according to the word of God.

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
{Genesis 2:17}

Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?

...
So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*

O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
👉till my change come.

...
His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
{Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}

And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
{Job 19:26}

Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
{The Preacher 9:10}

Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
{Psalm 146:3-4}

Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.

Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
{John 11:12-14}

...
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
👉at the last day.

Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
{John 11:24-25}

But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
{Daniel 12:13}

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
{John 3:16}

And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
{Genesis 3:4}

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
{Ezekiel 28:14}
^
(satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)

The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

*He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
{Isaiah 33:14-15}

If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.

larrybedouin
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The protestant Ben Shapiro! My old ears have a hard time keeping up! But the truth is an amazing thing and it get to you some way, somehow! God bless you for your ministry.

Dpfb
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Its not so simple to explain but here's the short version.
Jacob's name was changed to Israel which means, he who contends with God. I will not let you go until you bless me!
So who is Israel?
God worked 6 days and rested on the 7th. If ye will enter my rest!! The last day!

richardjackson
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What is the name of the book you are reading from by Tom Schreiner?

fofokeith
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Keep in mind these differences are trivial in Gods eyes, maybe that’s Gods purpose so that the conversation continues in front of our for heads and in our hand. (Bible).

lowrider
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Love the message. Just to add to it. The passages in 2 Peter talking about the burning of the elements is a mistranslation. The Greek word interpreted as “elements” (stoicheia) is interpreted as principles in the rest of the New Testament, not Earth Wind and Fire. So what Peter says will burn is actually the principles or the order of things.

hoodnlott
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Joel2 . Isiah 2. Daniel 2. Then read acts 2 and you will see the kingdom is established

Mendezfarriercompany
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It is impossible for a Christian to reign in their intermediate state. Christians cannot reign until they receive their Objective Immortality (I Thessalonians 4:13-18; I Corinthians 15:51-58) and Fine Linen (Revelation 19:7). No New Testament author claimed that we will reign in our intermediate state. You have to assume that Christians are in the Book of Revelation Chapters 6-19. Plus, how can there be a Thousand temporal years in an Eternal Heaven.

gracelandministries
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John McArthur is correct. You don't spiritualize something that is clearly stated. But you want to win your argument.

williamslaffey
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Who are the Israel of God?

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
{Galatians 3:28-29}

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, *which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit* and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
{Romans 2:28-29}

Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*

For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;

And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*

And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
[The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
{Ephesians 2:11-19}

Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
{Acts 10:34-35}

Again...

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

For there is no respect of persons with God.
{Romans 2:10-11}

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:

*Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
{Romans 9:6-8}

Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:28-29}

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
upon *the Israel of God*
{Galatians 6:15-16}

And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
{Romans 11:23}

For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
{Galatians 3:26-27}

larrybedouin
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Gentlemen, would you please explain how this debate/discussion advances the cause of the gospe.l

arthurhoyte