Pumping VS paddling | what's the most important for paddling up on a DW SUP foil

When it comes to paddling up on a DW SUP Foil, on flat water or in bumps, what is the most important? Pumping, or paddling?
Obviously we need both to be the most effective, but in this test, we find that pumping is the most important to be able to paddle up on foil. The split is probably around 60% pumping effort, 40% paddling effort, to have the best results in the paddle up phase, this can vary depending on the foil setup used.

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[higliner]

Best video yet on pump vs paddle! I am convinced the flat water pump practice is key. I have the 1750 leviathan on a 6’8” white bird 115 L. I can paddle but my pump is lacking. Between this video and your super helpful comments I am going to focus much more on pumping without the paddle. Great stuff for those flat days! Thank you and wing foil pro center for great gear and support!

[windfoil]

Sheer genius. You continue to amaze me. What a demo. Thanks.

[yujitakeuchi]

Thanks Gwen for such a wonderful inspiration. I just recently started SUP foiling after 10 years of SUP surfing experience and struggling with take off.
From my background I was relying too much on paddling, especially in paddling straight, without recognizing the importance of pumping techniques. Your videos are very informative and inspiring🎉 I will follow all your relevant videos from Japan! Thanks😊

[FoilsUp]

Great video Gwen 👍🙌🔥
Will share it to my beginners crew ! Thank you 🙏
An idea for the next one : a slow motion highlighting the forward jump movement of the back foot to transfer the body over the foil again after the ressource phase of the foil 🤙

[MrBastrider]

Would be interesting to have this type of experiment with wing pumping vs foil pumping on a wingfoil setup

[kryszczuk]

Thanks for this, an eye opening video. How do you rate the lateral and torsional stiffness of the M73P/W1750 combo to other setups/brands you used for flatwater pump up? Would you advise to start with a high aspect wing (like 1750) or a medium aspect like the W1250 - both have the same surface area?

[tonolegarda]

Great vid! You clearly showed pumping is more important. Hope to try DW someday. I will practice with the wing board.

[NicolasPapaix-girx]

Thks great feedback… I ll try tonight !!!
Can prone / sup foil but still struggle big time to DW in the bumps at every attempt ! Can’t get the paddling timing right and wasn’t pumping enough also…

[wingfoilrentals]

Paddling alone requires a fast planing hull. Like a slalom race board planing tail . a displacement hull works much better for the pumping dynamics while in the water.
A combination of the 2 hull designs is what’s being applied in the custom world. Gradual but pronounced forward rocker

Great skills 🎉Gwen .

[charleschandler]

Awesome video. Thanks so much for creating it. Cheers!

[Foilracer]

Hi, great video! I see you are on the 100l Dragonfly. How much do you weight? Because I am also looking to get a dragonfly for winging+flat water sup foiling at a weight of 80 kg dry. Normally i am out winging with a 85l board so i am thinking to get the 100 or 105 liter dragonfly but I am not sure. I hope you maybe have a good advice :) Thank you!

[janschenk]

Nice demo, Gwen! Would love to see how fast you pop up with that monster of a foil in a combination...?

[koejoe]

Another perfect video, thank you 🙏 Just got a 8’2 kt dragon fly and uni 83cm mast with hyper 170. Saving for a bigger front wing but now I hope I can at least practice paddle ups with Marine traffic. What’s the smallest you have been able to sup/pump flat water start?

[OCEANBOUND]

what other foils can you pump up with no paddle? you make it look so easy but that's a pretty special foil. it's hard to gauge if this stuff transfers to other foils that are smaller or if just for these monster foils

[waterbowman]

Epic thanks! Really good insight i have been flogging the paddle but with wrong/poor pumping.
Attempted pumping only on the kujira 1440/dragonfly last week and literally was not moving forward in the water😂 can prone pump loops and skate ollie ok etc but flatwater DW pump fail! Is it the foil that creates the forward motion pumping initially or the board itself rocking motion/foot drag? Thanks again this content is gold!

[patricevanbrempt]

Great video, thanks for that. Do you think that pumping is possible with a GO Foil RS 1300 ?

[andream]

Great video! Just to understand how it works and put all together, paddling with back foot pressure would ease take off?

[xxxyyy]

interesting video! but, got a bit confused...

how to apply these learnings to wing foil? dw boards are becoming popular... but, that is for takeoff speed... and, in this demo, speed was... less important ? 🤔

[bohdanafanasyev]

Hi, Gwen and Damiel I am looking into getting a QuickBlade paddle an but not sure which model to use, Ono Ava or Stingray, can you please advise? 🙏
Current level beginner/intermediate
I weight 70k and the current board is a 7'2 x 18'' x 110l, the foil I will be mostly using for now is 1000cm with AR12

[olivierdecroly]

I just realized recently how pumping is important and quite technical as well - practicing it with foildrive and cloudx anchor. Thx again for great videos ! Olivier ps ma fille me demande pourquoi il bouge son cu…comme ca papa? 😂😂😂