Is Apple Passwords a REAL Password Manager?

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Apple Passwords is Apple's native password manager built into iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia. But is it good enough to dethrone the big names like LastPass, 1Password, and BitWarden? Here's my take.

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0:00 - What Is Apple Passwords?
1:12 - First Impressions
2:33 - Features
6:15 - Security
6:51 - Who Is Apple Passwords For?

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*Update: it IS possible to organize vault items to some extent.* You can create “groups” with just yourself (it’s not just for sharing) and separate logins that way. However, there is still no way to add tags to items or put items within a folder once inside a group.

Thanks to @D8686M for the feedback.

Craylor
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It’s an amazing password manager for those who want something simplistic and are only within the Apple ecosystem

iwishyouwould
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Agreed. It's definitely not a password manager for people who watch videos on password managers, BUT it's a great solution for people who are not into tech that run away when someone suggest using a password manager. With those people, Apple has made it easy enough that there's chance of adoption.

I feel this is the first time I have a chance of convincing family members who don't use password managers to adopt the habit.

spektrograf
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How to change the buil-in password app on macOS Sequoia to 1Password?

ArmandinhoLara
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windows user here and there is no way to export passwords from last pass to windows... I have a macbook but it is just outside the update window and i can't sync them to apple that way. This is a huuuge problem...

brandonfitzpatrick
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No cross platform support (outside Apple) is an automatic disqualification for me. Same goes for Apps that hold your data OS hostage.

Adamk
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The only issue I have with it that I’m not able to use it with any browser not Safari. It’s not easy for 2fa and inserting password on chromium browsers. Started of thinking of moving to other apps but it’s not worth the move. Locked into the ecosystem including Safari though I’m having so many issues with it

Abdullah-zlub
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At the time of this video going live, iOS 18 has been out for over a week. So I assume there was a long lag between recording this and releasing it?

You mention there's no way to organise passwords by folders, but then literally mouse over the "add to Group" option, and even then talk about groups later. You don't have to have another person in a group. You can just use it for you to organise. I've been doing that since they first introduced groups over a year ago. I have all my work passwords in one group, passwords for hotel booking apps and websites in another, passwords for smart home apps in another, etc etc.

DM
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I’m primarily an Apple user and everything i use daily are apple products. My iCloud password is stronger than 90% if not more of people. They do need to improve it for sure. Not using special characters is not good IMO.

ericdraven
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I think this is for your average Joe/Jane who don't know what a password manager is or someone who wants something super simple. But if you are on top 3rd party apps I see absolutely no reason to switch.

cakeboss
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Apple say it supports Windows as well as Apple products. So why falsely claim it doesn’t support other platforms? And since this is version 1.0, it’s highly likely it will soon have more general cross platform support. I trust Apple security more than others.

copernicus
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Cancelled 1pass the day apple passwords officially released.

Never needing to update 1pass ever again, or update and fear new bugs, plus the price (free) is simply a no brainer. It’s also a tighter integration. Password prompts pop up even before pages have loaded sometimes and authentication via facetime or touch id is noticeably quicker

Natak
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What if you don’t want to use it. Why can’t a person keep using the old one which is alot easier.

joeracerable
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Apple passwords along with apple sucks. I dont use icloud for anything and dont want to use my iphone to store anything given how easy it is to hack the phone. When I opened the new passwords app out of curiosity I was shocked to see several of my passwords were exposed. How did the passwords get into my phone as these were passwords to apps I dont have on my phone. The only way it could happen is from icloud which shouldnt be responsible since I never enabled Icloud for anything. Well I was further shocked to see that "sync my passwords in icloud " is now enabled on my phone. I didnt do that Apple must have set it after the update to IOS 18.1.1. I see a class action suit against Apple for exposing your passwords without consent.

tomlathrop
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0:16 last pass? oh, come on man, that's not a password manager anymore😅

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