How Argentina could have won the Falklands War

#falklandswar #argentina #aircraftcarrier

[studavies]

Uss phoenix one of the few ships to survive pear harbour relatively intacted

[johnable]

I think if the task force had failed the British people would have demanded a better one be built and sent back.
Im 59 and was young enough then to have been called up and sent and i remember the mood of the nation.
There wasn't a hope in hell that the Argentinians would have been allowed to keep the Falklands.

[failsafe]

Keep in mind had the Argentinians sank a British carrier then British subs would be given the go ahead and sink anything even outside the 200 mile exclusion zone and it would have been brutal.

[theninearemine]

As Margarat Thatcher said about the conflict... _"It's the principle of the matter."_ I seriously doubt the British would have accepted defeat so easy. They would have regrouped and came back.

[tonylalangue]

A light cruiser, and they called it a battleship?

[sheltr]

I've noticed that the "shorts" from the Imperial War Museums have great info, but are poorly constructed / edited.
For example, this video about how the Argentinians could have won the war begins by discussing the Belgrano.
However, the video then makes a complete 90 degree turn to an unrelated aircraft carrier, and how its failure to launch aircraft may have handed the war to the Brits.
So, what was the point of beginning with the Belgrano? It only distracts, and creates confusion.
I've found that this is typical of the Imperial War Museums' videos. Very disappointing.
Isn't training for persuasive discussion something that the British education system was supposed to be good at...?

[MROJPC]

The Belgrano was a surface combatant dating from WW II and yet the British torpedoes fired by HMS Conqueror to sink the ship were themselves MK-8 models dating back to WW II, so that is something to consider and not simply scoff at the age of the Argentine ship - if it works, it works. So many things could have made a difference in the campaign. The Belgrano group was only the southern half of a pincer pressing towards the British Task Force. Had the Argentines actually pressed their attack with their destroyers or with the northern pincer then they could have attacked the British with anti-ship missiles and carrier launched attack aircraft. The Argentinians withdrew their surface combatants and instead attacked with aircraft launched from land bases. Argentinian pilots were extremely capable and made numerous hits on British ships. Fortunately for the British many of the Argentinian bombs failed to explode because the pilots flew in low and the government junta failed to procure the necessary kits that would have modified the bombs to successfully detonate. The Argentine junta also began their invasion prior to obtaining all of their purchase of Exocet missiles from France, so the British were again fortunate that the Argentine military leaders made so many miscalculations.

I should say I salute the bravery of the combatants on both sides and find the war regrettable. IMO, the Argentinians were misled and the military government is rightly blamed for leading the nation into a debacle. The British were right to confront this aggression and should feel proud for their soldiers, sailors, and airmen.

[TheArklyte]

Ah, so technically Argentina had a chance? Though I don't see how it'll force withdrawal of nuclear submarines and thus blockade.

[ryanfreebody]

There was a British sub stuck on the Argetines carrier from the get go.

Lurking in the shadows waiting the the order.

There were 3 subs involved.

Fortunately for Argetina, they opted to pull back the fleet when Belgrano was sunk. Rather wisely.

[MrSmithUK]

Take a moment to remember RFA Sir Galahad and HMS Sheffield. It was war and there were casualties on both sides.

[grahamjones]

You’re assuming that the Argentinians would’ve hit the aircraft carrier, which is doubtful. The truth is that they lost the war the day they invaded the Falklands. The logistics of the British task force were also incredible when you consider what was involved in operating the Vulcan bombers in that theatre of war. Argentina took on a vastly superior and more experienced military than they were, and miscalculated how the UK would react. It also caused much friction between the UK and France for them supplying Argentina with missiles. Neighbours, huh?!? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[BacoTellMan]

This was the same ship my great grandfather served on in WW2!!

[ememe]

I don't think anything could've happened to change anything in that war other than duration. From the time the British Parliament resolved to take back the islands, Argentina wasn't going to withstand.

[bardslee]

When the Argentinians are about to launch a strike against your fleet, but God himself is literally on your side.

[Al-ivmb]

I had literally finished my specialist training and was heading home to Scotland on Easter leave when my train stopped at Taunton and there was a blackboard instructing us to immediately return to base.
Within days I found myself on a Type 42 destroyer and a few short weeks later in a war against a military who's officers I had been saluting when at my training centre.
I had no animosity towards the Argentinians then, but years later having lived in Argentina in middle age I have no hesitancy in saying we had to win, and that the war in the Falklands was one we would win even had we to regroup and try again and again.
I have some wonderful Argentinian friends and loved ones but I would return to the high seas again only this time I would understand much better why.

[wilinstonthompson]

So their aircraft carrier couldn't launch aircraft because of dead air ?! Thats freaking wild

[paulcock]

Don't start wars if you don't want your ships sunk

[MichaelCampin]

The carrier was being shadowed by a UK sub all the time and had no chance to launch.

[johnstott]

The Argentine carrier was built in Birkenhead, commissioned into the Royal Navy as HMS Venerable. My grandfather was chief engineer. But her machinery was shot in 1983, she could not make the air speed to get her aircraft away. Lucky the weather gave us light winds, or she would have likley given us a bloody nose.

[Centurionsuperbazooker]

I have a close friend who was on the submarine that sunk the Belgrano