Modern Day Israel is NOT the same as OT Israel? | Theocast Clips

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In this clip from today's episode Justin breaks down why modern day Israel is not the same as the Biblical Israel in the Old Testament.

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Some American Christians are busy giving Israel money to build earthly houses instead of using that money to spread the gospel that can give eternal life. Interesting times indeed.

davidenyenihi
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Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. (Romans 11:25, ESV)

4 For the children of Israel shall dwell many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or pillar, without ephod or household gods. 5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days. (Hosea 3:4-5, ESV)

22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord GOD: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations to which you came. 23 And I will vindicate the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, and which you have profaned among them. And the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Lord GOD, when through you I vindicate my holiness before their eyes. 24 I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land. (Ezekiel 36:22-24, ESV)

14 But Zion said, "The LORD has forsaken me; my Lord has forgotten me." 15 "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you. (Isaiah 49:14-15, ESV)

9 With weeping they shall come, and with pleas for mercy I will lead them back, I will make them walk by brooks of water, in a straight path in which they shall not stumble, for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. 10 "Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, and declare it in the coastlands far away; say, 'He who scattered Israel will gather him, and will keep him as a shepherd keeps his flock.' (Jeremiah 31:9-10, ESV)

4 "In those days and in that time, declares the LORD, the people of Israel and the people of Judah shall come together, weeping as they come, and they shall seek the LORD their God. 5 They shall ask the way to Zion, with faces turned toward it, saying, 'Come, let us join ourselves to the LORD in an everlasting covenant that will never be forgotten.' (Jeremiah 50:4-5, ESV)

11 "In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old, 12 that they may possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations who are called by my name, " declares the LORD who does this. (Amos 9:11-12, ESV)

14 I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant them on their land, and they shall never again be uprooted out of the land that I have given them, " says the LORD your God. (Amos 9:14-15, ESV)

Nighthawkinlight
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FINALLY!!!! I’m so happy to hear the truth from you guys! The whole world has been deceived by the state of Israel. God bless you!!!

LeslieJones
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Something that can help substantiate this truth even further is the seventy-week prophecy of Daniel. That prophecy is pivotal in making the distinction already mention: the covenantal nation of Israel of the First Testament IS NOT the State of Israel post 1948.

MiltGonzalez
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The house of Israel consists of tribes that currently don't live in the nation state of Israel.

Vlabar
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Even if one believes there is a prophetic future for Israel distinct from the Church (which I don't), how does that justify equating a secular state under secular law with the Davidic Kingdom under the Law of Moses? Have compassion on the people, by all means. As we should have compassion for anyone suffering. But we do not have some Biblical mandate to intervene as Israel's protector, or endorse everything Netanyahu does. The rightness of their actions should be evaluated in the same manner we would evaluate any other nation's actions.

shawngillogly
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Evangelical Christian Zionists who believe in the pre-tribulation Rapture have criticized others who are post-tribulationalists, preterists, amillennialists, and postmillenialists for not correctly dividing the word of God yet they themselves don’t differentiate between ancient Israel and modern day Israel founded by the Jewish Rothschild family in 1948.

The Old Testament verses about Israel being the apple of God’s eyes; pray for the peace of Jerusalem; he who blessed Abram will be blessed by God; etc., applied to ancient Israel but not to today’s Israel. What changed?

After the Jews as a nation rejected the Son of God, judgment fell on Jerusalem and its Second Temple in 70 AD. Israel was no longer special and it ceased to exist from 70 AD until 1948.

Modern day Israel only exists so Jesus can physically return to Jerusalem at the same location He ascended back to His Father (see Acts Chapter 2). At His return, only a remnant of Jews who survived the Antichrist’s Holocaust 2.0 will have their blindness lifted to see their true Messiah. They will weep uncontrollably as they see whom they pierced at Calvary in 30 AD.

Landis_Grant
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Thank you all for having the courage to say the truth.

charlesbartleson
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That nation did not "cease to exist", they still exist just NOT in 'Israel'. They were not wiped off the land of the living.

BrandNWMN
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Strongs concordance has the answer to who Israel is. Yes it was Jacob and his descendants. Spiritually it means Christ and his believers. Galatians 3:29 says those who are in Christ are the heirs to the promise. So no it’s not them over there.

QuilaGee
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Romans 11: 13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? 16 If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. 32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.

pinoychristianpilgrim
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Rome didn’t only flatten Israel, Jesus was saying the temple would be destroyed, and it happened 37 years after the ressurection, symbolically saying, our bodies are the temple, not a physical location. In Josephus war of the Jews, book 6 chapter 5 passage 3, he describes the whole world seeing angels fighting in the sky with chariots and encircling the city of Jerusalem. Also historian Tacitus in Histories, Book 5 passage 13 also says the whole world saw angels fighting in the sky. Indeed, not only did the Roman’s destroy the temple, the angels assisted them in doing so.

Adam-iikn
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I listened to this piece; You failed to point out the difference between Israel and Judah. Speaking of them as one, is a major error that leads to other erroneous doctrines

thegospelofthegraceofchris
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Religious Zionism is a form of idolatry. In Hebrew Bible, Devarim 32:17 reads as follows:

"They sacrificed to demons, not God, to gods they had not known, new gods that had come recently, whom your ancestors had not feared".

The medieval commentator Ibn Ezra suggested that the “new gods” mentioned in this verse were actually the gods of foreign nations that the Israelites had come into contact with.

"new gods" is today's Zionism. Zionism is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine. The movement initially emerged in Central and Eastern Europe as a national revival movement in the late 19th century, both in reaction to newer waves of antisemitism and as a consequence of Haskalah, or Jewish Enlightenment. Since the establishment of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports “the development and protection of the State of Israel”.

One cannot deny that the conflicts in the middle-east is caused by the Zionist movement and the violations of the 3 Oaths made by the Jews found in the Talmud (Song of Songs 2:7, 3:5, 8:4):

The Oaths:
First Oath: Israel should not ascend to the land in a wall (i.e., en masse or forcefully).
Second Oath: The Holy One adjured Israel not to rebel against the nations of the world.
Third Oath: The Holy One adjured the nations not to oppress Israel excessively.

Jews worldwide are now paying the price for the violations of the 3 Oaths

Zionism ("new gods") is only around 100 years old. It is the transformation from religion to nationalism, to materialism created by non-religious Jews who hated their religion. The reason why they use the name Israel, the Star of David, hijacking, stealing the identity of Judaism and the Jewish people is in order to gain a legitimacy for their existence that should lead people to say, 'oh, it is God given to them' and that they should use fear and intimidate people from speaking out against their actions because they will call those that do anti Semitic; it couldn't be anything further from the Truth.

sgmovies
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Rev 2:9 - 3:9 The descendants of ancient Israel are the people that were scattered to the 4 corners of the world in ships.
They went into slavery. They were curse for
disobedience.
DEUT.28:15
The Lord sent them into Egypt (bondage) again in ships.
The Atlantic slave trade...
DEUT.28:68

victoriabrown
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A nation is a people and not just a geographical entity. When Rome "flattened" Israel using your own term, they did not exterminate its people from existence.

larryomaghomi
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I have a real concerning question, if modern day Israel is NOT the Biblical Israel, and the “New Israel” a.k.a church is the supposed Israel. How can we then explain the prophetic scriptures such as Ezekiel, Daniel & Revelation that pointed out actual geographic locations such as “northen mountains of Israel” or “Valley of Megiddo” or “the temple”… where wars are going to take place ? Are we the church some how are going to end up in the piece of Land and fight the wars ? And how can we be the ones that fight the wars then when Jesus commandment for us is to turn the other cheek & lay down our lives for our neighbours ? Isn’t it more plausible if there is a rebellious nation yet called by GOD, and GOD is using that rebellion to bring about those wars to fulfill His purpose ? … Sorry, I just can’t can’t can’t accept the idea that one day the Church is going to turn military and fight those end time wars.

danielchai
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Okay, so when God said to Abraham FOREVER/EVERLASTING and it changed - does it mean that when He promised us EVERLASTING life, it can also change???
I still see the sun and the moon, which means Jer 31:35&36 has NOT happened yet!!!???

elizevanniekerk
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"Replacement Theology" is straight out of hell! Rom.11:26 Israel will accept Christ!!!

EverlastingLife-plug
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Jeremiah 3:6-10' But she did not return. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it. Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a certificate of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but went and played the harlot also

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