What is Glorification and How Does it Relate to Salvation?

[mvj]

@0:58 it's Romans 8:18-25...Not Hebrews.

[watchman]

Keep in mind, the soul is the battlefield. The battle between the flesh and the spirit. This is a battle we have encountered throughout our Christian lives. The more we feed the flesh, the more it fortifies. The more we feed the spirit, the more it strengthens. The more we nourish the spirit, the more the power of God will transform us and conform us more and more to the image of Christ. This is a process. But our justification is only through faith in the finished work of Jesus. We cannot work to be saved. Salvation is a three-part process: Justified, Sanctified, Glorified. Justification saves us from the PENALTY of our sin. Sanctification saves us from the power of sin through our lives. Glorification saves us from the Presence of sin, with a new body glorified in the resurrection after death. Being Born Again: The way to nurture your new spirit is by reading God's Word. Let His Word change you from the inside out. Live in Jesus Christ and approach Him in your heart and follow Him. Know Christ - Know Peace. Communicate with Him. Pray to Him, Learn His ways. If you are born again, you are brought into His Family - the triune union between Father, Son and Spirit. Bought for the price through the sacrifice of the Son, Jesus. We are adopted, born and married in this perfect Union as the Body of Christ. We are brought into His Kingdom. Praised be God. Understanding the relationship of a person's Body, Soul, and Spirit is the key to understanding certain passages - as in 1 John 3-9.

[matthewhornberger]

just an aside, the text is in Romans not Hebrews--OOPS great word

[ddmound]

Whereas the Patyr's justification 3fold is consecration. 1) Wisdom admits you to the secret place (Prov.9:1.) that has to be first in your heart. (the promise of obedience to the 1st commandment is that He will visit you every day for the rest of your life - Jerm.33:3.31:33.29:10-13.Ps.4:3.91:1, 15. Deut. 32:2.) 2) He declares you holy and say 'this day have I begotten you'. And 3) He brings you to the secret place, and gives you a pattern to follow for a prayer closet.
For 3 years He visits at a certain time (the 3rd and 9th hour) to bring you the knowledge of Him. This causes His Spirit (Ruach - Zech.4:6.) to rest upon you. (Isa.28:9-13.11:1, 2.) This is obeying the sabbath! So the glorification is the illumination - II Co.4:6. - that lands you in the secret place. The exit to the Kingdom of Heaven is in the secret place called the "vanishing point". But the rapture will overrule it bc the vanishing point is for death.
The rapture will be a memorial to those who are snatched and do not see death the way it was originally supposed to be after 7000 years. The key to this is the sacrifice of righteousness. (Rom.12:1, 2.) To have Rom.8:28-30. ppl you better repent! The world as you know it will be gone within a decade, never to rise again. Why die in your sins Abba Patyr' says to you Amen amen.

[ddmound]

"Glorification" (1st installment) comes about when the Lord reveals the Patyr' to you (Matt.11:27-30.) bc you are walking with him, seeking the kingdom of God and His righteousness in Christ. What is glorification? It is as I said, the Lord reveals the Heavenly Father to you for becoming righteous. Glorification is when the Godhead becomes One in you.
This means you must obey the 1st commandment to love the Abba Patyr' with all your heart, soul, mind (of Christ), and strength which is the Lord's joy in you. The joy of the Lord is my strength. This is how you know they are always with you in Spirit. And all you have to do is call and The Godhead will manifest. Very few find it. I need to tell you about the difference between glorification and sanctification bc this guy has no clue. He spoke of a process that is sanctification. He has no clue what he is talking about.
This is the knowledge of the Lord that must come out of the knowledge of the Patyr'. In order to be qualified to be glorified by the Heavenly Father through the Lord revealing Him. You must be justified. This "justification" is a twofold process, one of the Lord (1st) through sanctification that you gain when you walk with him of the streets of your city. The very virtue that rest upon him filters through to you. This is a 2nd (like installment) from giving you the "Power" of his "Presence" called 'exousia" (Jn.1:12.) which is the "Anointing" of his Presence. (Rom.8:9.)
Then you are to be filled with the Holy Spirit to perform miracles. (Mk.16:16.) These signs will follow you before the Patyr'' is revealed. (The Lord will never reveal the Patyr' to anyone in a church) It is to the ones in the church that the Lord will say to them I never knew you. But the 'justification' is hidden in the Lord's 5fold Anointing (in that anointing that says you have no need of any man to teach you other than that Anointing)
I tell you that it is justification that makes you a member of the royal Household of Priests. So the justification of the Lord is twofold and of the Patyr' threefold. The Lord's justification is sanctification he separates you from the world in the ministry of reconciliation. (this means you are responsible for your own behind on judgment day and no one else's) And he forgives your sins (if you repent of them like you said your were going to do - very few actually do it)

[ddmound]

Ppl there is no SUCH thing as the "doctrine of glorification" in the Doctrine of the Spirit (Ruach) or knowledge of God in charismatic nondenominational circles or denominations of Christianity that are not doctrines of devils. This is the question from the reply that I shall lightly answer. It is asked: "(1) What is Glorification and (2) How Does it Relate to Salvation? These are two separate spiritual elements that both come in two parts. Before I go on just know that the goal of the disciple is glorification. The 'justification' of the Patyr' consecration is the glorification. (Rom.*;28-30.) He justifies you to glorify you. In short that is what was lost in the garden by Adam.
This means that the true goal of every Believer (who enters in as a child, weaned from the breast or logos) is from the cross to the Secret Place as your "destiny" on earth. That is the only place anyone can be glorified by the Heavenly Father. "Glorification" trades your fate of damnation for your destiny of eternal life in Christ. This is why I am saying up front that glorification and salvation both cannot be fully inherited until you die. From the womb to the tomb is everyone's fate! This is the broad and wide road of life in this world. It cannot do anything but kill you in the end. Why die in your sins listening to ppl that are dying in their too?