These car brands won't survive the 2030 ZEV Mandate ! | 4K

Can Ford and VW survive the 2030 ZEV mandate when Ford's EV division is set to lose $5 Billion this year and VW are looking at closing 2 factories in Germany !

In this video I also look at the fortunes of Volvo and Polestar.

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[andypalin]

By ditching the Fiesta alone, Ford deserves everything it gets! 😜

[andrewnewnes]

My friend drove a Polestar at Goodwood FoS.2023 price was £62000, 18 months later £26000 with 12000 miles on the clock...

[thescouselander]

I've never seen such insanity as these major motor manufacturers axing their most popular products and replacing them with something significantly worse and with higher prices. Historians will be studying this for centuries after everyone comes to their senses.

[cynicalmanc]

Nobody in the UK will even consider ordering a new car whether ICE or EV until we know the outcome of the budget in late October. Whether its pay for mile, fuel duty rises or other extra taxation to achieve net zero. Not a good time to work in Motor trade or supporting industries as confidence must be rock bottom. Totally depressing times we now live in?

[ic]

There is nothing positive happening in the UK, it’s all doom and gloom. I had to laugh the other day when I passed a Kia dealership and they were advertising one of their cars at over £800 a month, what planet are they on?

[mrg-ghx]

Ford, VW, JLR, etc need to call the WEF and ask for a refund

[bat.]

The ZEV penalties on manufacturers in this country is simply going to keep pushing prices up, currently every ICE powered vehicle a manufacturer sells over the current 22% electric threshold this year costs them £15k, it goes up to £18k next year with a threshold of 28% of sales required to be electric. The only way manufacturers selling cars in the UK are going to meet these kind of targets is reducing and rationing ICE sales, new EV sales are dropping outside of fleet sales as they are simply too expensive for many people and plenty of people will never be able to access a home charging point. Where do you plug in if you live in a terrace house with no off street parking or a block of flats?
Europe has started to put the brakes on this madness of EV evangelism we need low or zero emissions regulations not EV only or we are heading for a disaster. Let's not forget this EV push includes sales of vans which many small and medium companies rely on to run their business. A large Iveco sized panel van EV is £100k, how many companies can afford that kind of outlay once new ICE vans are almost impossible to find for sale at a dealer because they have sold their yearly allocation and all that's left is EV's for the year?
You could take a look at the problems the Emergency services are having switching to EV's and around having access to suitable charging. I believe the lead times for EV fire engines are around 4-5 years from order date to delivery. Ambulances are based on van chassis which are part of the ZEV quote rules and how many electric medical systems do you think are onboard drawing power when the vehicle is stationary? The same with powering pumps and systems on fire engines.
I am not anti EV but this current ZEV push is not based on the reality of living in the real world today

[Jason-Hicks]

Great topic Pete, and I can see why it’s a controversial one. As I’ve said before I live here in the States and from what I’m seeing in my little corner of Tennessee is the dealerships are stacked with pickups and SUV’s and they are just not moving off the lot as they once did. I talked to my neighbor who works for a local Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealership and he is now selling in a week what he use to sell in two days. There are almost no economical vehicles here anymore aside from the Hyundai Venue and Mitsubishi Mirage if you can find one. The new Nissan Kicks SR here will cost you $30k. I drove by my local Ford dealership and they had one Maverick that was already sold and a lot full of F150’s, Expedition, and Explorers. You brought up the Fiesta and I owned a 2014 Fiesta SE and it was a great car and I miss that car terribly. I truly feel that Ford along with Chevrolet has kind of shot themselves in the foot doing away with their small cars in favor of large trucks and SUV’s. The other vehicle that I have noticed that is selling quickly here is pre owned Tesla’s. You can pick up a Model 3 with 30, 000 miles on it for around 20, 000-25, 000 dollars directly from Tesla. While with the exception of Mercedes Benz a pre owned vehicle at a dealership especially a certified pre owned one is almost as expensive as a new car, and after you figure in the higher interest rates if you’re financing the payment comes out the same as if you purchased the new car. I know I’ve rambled on here, but I have a lot on this topic that I want to discuss. I don’t really care about what type of propulsion the vehicle that I own has. All I care about is having a safe (#1 priority) economical car to get me from point A to point B and back. I have absolutely no use for a $100, 000 pickup or a $70, 000 SUV. I know that there are some that do but I’m not one of them. To me it’s foolish to overspend on a car and miss out on taking quality time with my family on vacation and eating healthy.

[reinmansmith]

The simple fact is that most politicians of any party have no experience of running an industry. They come up with their ideas without any knowledge of the effect their decisions will have on the market and the main manufacturers within that industry. They simply allow them selves to be led by the various pressure groups. Politicians are too used to dipping their hands into the taxpayers pockets, (which they think is an endless pot of money) and have no idea about profit and loss or having to balance the books. I think you’re quite right when you say there has to be a middle way where those that want EVs can have them, (and they have their place within the transport market) for city centre transport etc, while the market for ICE vehicles is still maintained whilst there is a need/desire for them.

[Cuzzazbuzz]

Just realised I’m on the road to Cuba. Got my 6 year old car(which used to change every 4 years) booked in for a big refresh to last another 6 year rather than buy new. Don’t you just love where ideology takes you.

[DavidJerome-ov]

I am an EV owner (Polestar) with a home charger and free charging at work. I only do more than 200 miles in a day, around three times a year, so they work great for me. However, the solution doesn't work for 50% of the population who can't charge at home. If the government worked on a solution (e.g. rolled out a charging network and charged 25p kw - the take up would be massive and profitable). The current network is so expensive and unreliable (outside of Tesla).

As others have said - ford stopping the fiesta and focus and selling cars people want. £25k is now their entry level car and £43k for an EV. Some people want a city car, not an SUV.

[AlexBarrettOWI]

I am an avid VW buyer, my first hands on was an R32. Various Golfs and a Passat later, I drive a Golf R estate currently.
The issue I have with the ID range is they are just pig ugly. The range does not inspire any enthusiasm.

[adrianward]

No car manufacturer will succeed when people are forced down the EV route, build cars that appeal to customers. I.e range, price, practicality and longevity. The success would follow.

[bradleymorgan]

I think the bottom dollar is that all new car prices are getting out of reach to most people. Coupled with poor EV infrastructure and expensive charger installation at home. I’m in a decent paid job but with the ever increasing inflation rates, Cars above £20k are out of reach. Bring back car prices from 10-15 years ago and that will get sales going!

[Gopher]

When half the population have no option of charging at home, the government has no business banning sales of non electric cars.
Second hand petrol cars will become very expensive soon after this ban becomes complete.

[northpointproductionsltd]

Posting this here for balance, (although some sense is being talked) as a BEV owner since 2016, I’ve discovered what a massively better experience owning and running one is than the many ICE cars I’ve owned previously, dating back to 1981. The caveat is if you cannot charge at home (super cheaply) it’s not as amazingly cheap or convenient, though still no more costly than ICE. But it still means that for 60% of the UK population BEVs are an absolute no brainer! And all the surveys with actual BEV owners show that over 90% would never go back to ICE. The way media misinformation and negativity has taken hold and put people off EVs is very sad for the struggling car industry and for our ailing planet.👎🏼

[alexco]

You make a good point about the lack of an affordable electric ford fiesta. These legacy auto companies should be asking the question about how to sell affordable electric cars at a profit. Battery costs are dropping. Tony Seba predicts $10000 USD EVs by 2030. So any new EV bought now will probably depreciate lots. The legacy auto makers could start looking at how Tesla and BWD are selling EVs at a profit.

[peterbutcher]

I attempted to buy a new petrol Audi, my local dealer informed me there was no chance. One of my pals informed me it is all part of the Zero EV numbers game which the SMT have fudged to reach there targets. The SMT have been quiet vocal that people cant get enough EV's, as they reached their UK target this year for EV sales. Only achieved by deflecting vehicle sales.
I have been convinced for some time that we are going to lose a big player from the auto industry. A couple of Ford dealerships in my area no longer sell new cars. And service and repairs is a very hit and miss affair by these former main agents .

[philipporter]

The manufacturers are basically being forced out of business. Great video 😊

[shaochan]

Totally agree with electric Fiesta. I was shocked that they stopped production of the Fiesta and didn't have an electric Fiesta replacement. Was waiting for that logical replacement pipeline to be announced, but it was a stupid decision. Until we all go full EV, Fiesta's in the second hand market (even before they stopped production) were the No 1 selling car. To stop making them and also to not have a replacement EV Fiesta is ridiculous.