Nordic Metamodernism, Daniel Gortz (Hanzi Freinacht)

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What is Metamodernism? And why do some think it's the future? And why are others annoyed that Daniel Gortz (who writes under the pen name Hanzi Freinacht) is using that term in the first place?

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Holy moly. Last night I drifted off as the eclipse started, and woke up today feeling like one who went to sleep hundreds of years ago, waiting to wake at the right moment when she felt at home in the world again, when she could hear others speak the language that she’d been longing to communicate in for eons but the frustration by not ever being met there sent her into deep deep slumber. Hallelujah! Today is the day I wake up to hear again! I am feeling gleefully in superposition, both hear and there and grounded at peace. Thank you both for sharing this conversation!!! ♥️🙏✨

hmattoon
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All I can say is, finally, Rebel Wisdom is covering Metamodernism. I hope they dive into Homesteading / Doomer Optimism next.

chrisdungca
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Anyone that found this interesting check out the, I think, 3 chats he did with Jim Rutt. Deep stuff.

MrStumpmeister
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Something unvoiced is how this would work relative to the geopolitical concerns of our being surrounded by hostile nations. Is there a way to integrate the hawk and the dove so that we can have personal and codevelopment without losing the ability to have robust self defense?

kongjie
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His pushing a few buttons on purpose is a form of sincere “crazy wisdom”.

real
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Good development you guys! I've not got that into the metamodern work other than in passing and in contrast to Integral etc. Read a bit of the critics saying he had an incomplete version of integral and such (Naturally) but I like where this stuff is going, Neon renaissance for sure yay!

telekatron
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Ignorance Magic: Practices aimed at the establishment of beliefs which will serve the attainment of desired ends.

Normative Magic: Practices aimed at the adoption of behavior patterns which are acceptable to in-group consensus.

Insight Magic: Practices aimed at the suspension of disbeliefs which may prevent the realization of compassionate means.

Authentic Magic: Practices aimed at the encouragement of honest expressions which reflect the true self.

CrowMagnum
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It is very important to go beyond post-modernism, also in relation to aspects as decentralisation, liquid democracy and possibility to co-create solutions and institutions

vladanlausevic
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When I first found out "Hanzi Freinacht" was a pseudonym, I was frankly pissed. But I probably wouldn't have read "The Listening Society" if I knew it was written by some young upstart. (It reminds me of Ken Wilber when he first started out. Wilber was lucky to find an audience within the New Age movement, but it hurt him in the long run, because he's always been bound to his New Age base. This is a mistake Gortz avoided by the use of the pseudonym.)

jeff-onedayatatime.
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This brought a new school of thought to my life. I'm interested in learning about it!

siege
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Dean Radin explains how there is magic in depth- regrettably its hard to integrate and its interesting choice to reject it for its alienating aspects

ScottMarshallscotbot
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At 41 minutes Gortz makes a great point about it being imperialistic to be against the magical thinking of animist/pre-traditional societies. So today, in at least a part of the world, the Roman Catholic church is still a valid magical religion (e.g. the doctrine of transubstantiation), a point Richard Dawkins might not want to concede. :)

jeff-onedayatatime.
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Magical thinking is always a relative term, and can be a good tool to dispell fixed worldviews

CrowMagnum
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Thank you RW, I finally understand what metamodernism is.

real
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Liked his perspective very much, thanks

raresmircea
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nice stage yellow conversation :D :D :D

VahnAeris
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Ironically got an ad with Ken Wilber before this video.

vadimnnm
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I still dont get exactly what Metamodernism is....can someone please explain in layman terms without being ridiculously abstract and ambiguous

hamzariazuddin
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Having philosophic materialism as ones frame of mind makes ones theorising about any one Being into a work of social engineering. Meta modernism and popular culture, politics and theorists...cult of sub genre inteligencia.
What is Being? What is One frame of mind? What is not coded?
“...We reached out to the theorists...” wow. You reached out to individuals who are Beings, a life, alive on this point, the earth. These individual Beings have thought processes, needs, a family tree, a personal history, wishes, dreams, sometimes skeletons in closed closets.
What seems quiet clear is how this dude perceive his cognitive capabilities in comparison to “people who are meta modern but yet lacking the cognitive capabilities to comprehend that”. This dude is on the path to finding the way, seems so, hopefully. Can he survive? To some extent seems so. Let’s not become to “culty”. People who love compartmentalised ways of thinking and take pride in defining nuances of Behaviour from a train of thought lacking track. Jordan Peterson is a Being words could describe as a muppish GnostiNihilist. God is all in all. God is 0 0NE activated. 1 in 0. Symbolen för föreningen. Svea rike törnas av Lea Svea

ordsmedensmening
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I can’t wait to see what post metamodernism has to say about this

iamlovingawareness