7.05 Tier List | Power/Meta Ranking | FFXIV Dawntrail

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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction & DISCLAIMER
1:05 Tanking Jobs
2:55 Melee Jobs
5:02 Ranged Physical Jobs
6:06 Casting Jobs
7:48 Healing Jobs
8:27 Final Tier Placement
8:38 Closing Thoughts
8:58 Outro

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[whatneutral]

reaper would need a full rework if deaths design if it got removed, it helps with alignment and double enshroud. its one of the best made jobs in the game and honestly S tier, even if its less damage than sam and viper

[poidnet]

Either increase the damage output of physical ranged DPS jobs or enhance their support tools. It's ridiculous to see all three of them consistently at the bottom of the RDPS rankings.

[technewsfortechnoobs]

I main Dancer...and I honestly think ALL of the "supporter" roles need a DPS buff. When I see a Warrior come in and all but 2 or 3 shot a mob soloing while I take almost a full Standard Step timer to down one or more mobs....it just takes a little joy out of it.

[asatowolfe]

Viper being one of the heaviest hitting melee classes while also having ranged options that are even more optimal than Ninja for disengages (via Uncoiled Fury) is wild. Being able to save the stacks for mechanics like Alarm Phermones or Defamations in M2S is definitely giving it an edge over the rest in terms of melee uptime since it doesn't require those casts for burst phases.

[gLobbZ]

Along with a drk rework they need to change the godsdamned stance it so aesthetically sore to look at

[TheKarishi]

Black Mage is a really nice gold standard for caster jobs. Its job identity is, functionally, King of Stone Sky Sea. If you can just stand still and do your rotation, it should be well ahead of the other casters in personal DPS. Having Picto surpass it on The Thing It Did while also doing six other crazy things was a clear sign that a rework needed to happen.

[asatowolfe]

I'm still not sure why people dislike Reaper's Death's Design. It's not like the job has a traditional DoT. If you imagine Death's Design as being a DoT that you want to keep full uptime on; one where 10% of all damage dealt is passive damage over time, it makes more sense. It's very easy to manage if you're used to playing classes with DoTs. It's easy to keep uptime on it, too, since it fits perfectly in its rotation. No preparation or combo is required, unlike Samurai. Just a single button that doesn't break your combo. You can also press it twice to extend the duration to up to 60 seconds or refresh it before it drops off if needed. That's a very useful and easy to maintain tool.

[mrchards]

More people play WHM because of aesthetics and it's simplicity. But AST brings a raid buff, more raid mit, and more utility.

[aaronwlkr]

Never understood why the "support classes" are so far down on the list, when the support they offer is garbage. Coming from FFXI support classes offered massive uplifts fulltime, to the rest of the party, so it made since they were weaker. Here in FFXIV... 2%-3% that is nothing.

[xxfrostxx]

I love red mage because it's fun. I like the feel, the look, and the style. I accept that I do less damage than most.
However, I will never agree with Summoner and Red Mage doing less damage because they have an ability that only comes into play when someone else makes a mistake.

[PraviousFaboule]

The problem with the BLM vs Picto (or any selfish dps for that matter) is still the same, picto still has a tremendous amount of damage for how permissive and easy to use it is and for how much of an insane amount of utility it brings to the party: a raid damage buff, a personal shield that can be transformed into a raidwide shield, a heal, a kinda leylines and all of this on top of being probably the 2nd easiest caster after the summoner, meanwhile it's competing to be at the top of the charts or it is straight up at the top sometimes.

[EnzoVinZ]

Dragoon loosing one jump making the rotation rather feels clunky -- the skill CDs are all over the place that it's hard to keep them in sync. The flow is just too disruptive rather than smooth and the skill activation feels slow to respond. EW Dragoon is still the best IMO.

[RobynRenarde]

What rotation helper is that in the bottom left corner?

[Archill]

I dont think reaper's death's design needs much change as it stands right now because it allows for fitting two communios in an arcane circle buff since it is not closed off when entering enshroud. It aligns up pretty well and I don't think it hinders any gameplay.
I personally have and probably will still continue to play reaper because of two main reasons:
1. It has raid buffs that are always a nice thing for groups, which also increases the potency of my plentiful harvest
2. It allows me to have a lot more focus on mechanics in a fight I am learning since it's pretty simple to play and doesn't have a ton of things to monitor aside from death's design and your arcane circle timer

[drob]

Healer balanace is so out of wack this expansion. WHM needs serious help, not because its bad, WHM is fine in isolation but because the other 3 healing options are just leagues ahead in utility and flexibility, especially on prog

[MrCeltius]

idk, I'd put BLM in A or A- simply because it takes WAY more effort to play well than picto and picto having a raid buff. Thunderhead needs to go away and flare star needs to become instant or something else. It's far and away from Endwalker BLM.

[DarkenedAndrew]

Black Mage should ALWAYS be #1 caster dps and top 3 dps overall. Otherwise the job just doesn’t make sense.

[TwilightCaster]

Why are they adamant about not letting MCH have higher damage?

And if you're not going to let us hide the lunchbox then the least make unique models for it to match the gun.

You manage to have a pallette to match each Picto brush? Bruh...

[Znnimus]

I wonder how the tier list shifts if we don't look at raids, and focus only on Dungeons as the focus shifts from single bosses to mob packs and less coordinated groups.

[noamonoch]

I honestly really love how MCH's "slow walking" cast feels in PvP, it feels like a good balance between the hard cast of gauss barrel and the run everywhere of, everything else. Hope they look at this as a way to balance ranged tax in the future.