Self-defence or Murder? - Law & Order

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Jack McCoy must convince the court that a woman was pushed to her death on purpose, not in self-defence.

From Season 14, Episode 13 "Married With Children" - After a motivational speaker is pushed off a hotel balcony, Briscoe and Green dig into his past. When his daughter is kidnapped, it seems they've found a motive.

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"How could I abduct my own child? If anybody's guilty of kidnapping, it was Lisa."
Uh... no? By your own logic she couldn't kidnap her own child if you couldn't. Not to mention she was the only one with legal custody, loophole or otherwise.

gideonjones
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Really surprised McCoy didn't ask her why she introduced herself to the detectives who came to the house as Lisa's sister. That would have blown holes in her story. If she did nothing wrong why did she lie? How did she find out where Lisa lived to take Sophie before the cops arrived? Why did she confront Lisa at the hotel and not her home if it was just to talk? It was premeditated.

spaghetti
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"You took your child and ran! Yes or no!"
The judge should have stopped her answer. McCoy was well within his rights to restrict her to yes or no answers.

MMuraseofSandvich
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She killed the little girl’s mother. How is that in her daughter’s “best interest”? The only “best interest” she is looking out for is her own.

yesterdayitrained
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"I guess I must have just pushed her back, cause then she just lost her balance and fell."
What, did this balcony not have any barrier around it? I don't care how drunk you are, there's no way you can accidentally fall off a balcony from losing your balance. You need a hefty shove to get pushed over a balcony barrier.
Never mind the whole "there's no way a person would've just fallen from the balcony into the tree she had to have been pushed" thing kind of throws another wrench in that, unless physics decided to just stop working at that moment.

TheLegend
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This defense is so preposterous.

On the day of Lisa's death were you and her married? No
For the time period of 2 years before the incident had you and Lisa spoken to each other? No
On the day if Lisa's death, did she invite you to her apartment? No
Did she invite you in when you showed up at her door? No
When you noticed that Lisa was drunk, did you leave? No
When she started arguing with you, did you leave? No
When she started pushing you, did you attempt to leave? No
When you as you describe it, accidentally caused her to fall of the balcony, did you call 911? No
When you saw her laying there in the tree, did you go down to see if she was alive? No
When the police came to Lisa's apartment, to which you were not invited, but in which you were now staying, did you tell them what happened? No
When the police after having found her corpse stuck in a tree asked you if you were her sister, did you correct them and tell them you were her ex-wife? No
When the police asked if Sophie's father was around did you tell them that you were Lisa's ex-wife? No
When you told the police that the child was adopted did you tell the police that you were Lisa's ex-wife? No
When the police were in Lisa's apartment to which you were not invite and Sophie called you mommy, did you tell the police that you were Lisa's ex-girlfriend/partner?
When the police left did you at any time contact Lisa's parents to tell them that she was dead? No
When the police left, did you stay at Lisa's apartment? No
Did you take Sophie to Lisa's parents? No
Have you at anytime had legal custody of Sophie? No


Is it true that you and Lisa were divorced for 2 years on the day that Lisa died? Yes
Is it true that on the day of Lisa's death you showed up at her door unannounced? Yes
Is it true that you were not drunk or in any way under influence of mind altering chemicals? Yes
Is it true that you got into an argument with Lisa who according to your own testimony was drunk? Yes
Is it true that you didn't tell the police that you were Lisa's ex-wife when they asked you if you we're her sister? Yes
Is it true that after the police had left that you took Sophie out of her home? Yes
Is it true that when the police found you after you took Sophie out of her house that you were at a highway rest shop? Yes
Is it true that Lisa had sole custody of Sophie? Yes

Your honor, I rest my case.

Even if the defense objects to some of my questions in the second section on grounds that the question was already asked and answered it doesn't matter, because even though the jury is supposed to disregard those questions and answers, they won't and I will have drilled those facts of the case into their head.

Arjay
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I felt bad for her for losing her daughter, but that self defense story was a joke.

aaronburgin
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The simple truth is that she committed murder in order to not have to deal with the reality she was not going to get custody.

Panwere
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I feel like this story shows us what happens when two partners get a child without first considering the long term possibility that they might break up or get divorced somewhere down the line.

t-rexcellentreviews
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Drunk or not how do you accidentally push someone off a building

rabbitsfoot
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I wonder if Renee Bishop knows her lawyer is really an Alien named Reggie and that he has a squid baby =)

blank_stare_productions
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"Her child"? Not in any sense of the meaning of that phrase. The jury was right in finding her guilty of murder and kidnapping.

michaelnoble
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IMO this is one of the trial scenes that ADA Stone would've handled better.

nicholasmaude
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- redirect, mr. mccoy?
- nothing your honor. the people rest
entire courtroom: oh thank god!! we could use a

creatip
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The defense attorney played an alien on Galaxy Quest.

kartikprasad
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When a defendant says delusional stuff like that, there's no harm in moving for a psyche evaluation.

OnlyGetty
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Bro I turned on the tv today and watched a law and order episode with snoop dog in it. This show is fuckin nails y0

alofritzmaul
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What happened to Sophie after the court scene? 😥 I know its a fictional crime show but when a plotline of a certain episode involves a child, the audience's natural response is to worry.

alyssagriffin
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"Any thing is possible"- the worst expert witness of all time

jandoel
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Isn’t the defense attorney the same “drunk” guy from the SVU episode of “41 witnesses”? If not they look eerily alike.

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