Prove Jesus Is God to a Jehovah’s Witness—With a Napkin

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Learn how to prove Jesus is God using John 1:3 and a simple napkin illustration. This quick, logical method debunks Jehovah’s Witness claims, showing Jesus as eternal and uncreated.

Credit for argument: Greg Koukl from @STRvideos

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Wait, if they don't believe Jesus is god, wouldn't that make them not Christians?

Pioneer_DE
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From personal experience, it doesn't matter how airtight your argument is, most people HATE being corrected. I've spent hours debating JWs and learned that the hard way. I highly recommend reading Tactics by Greg Koukl on how to evangelize. Most people are incredibly stubborn. Meditate on James 3:17 and Galatians 5:22-23, and learn to apply it in every day conversation. Also ask questions to try and lead them to the conclusion you want, and actually listen to what they're saying.

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Testify speedrunning how to counter false religions (any %)

vdevernaculo
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This is exactly what happened to Muhammad and Joseph smith these angels are giving these false religions different gospels and trying to deny Jesus being divine!
Galaetions 1:8 but even if we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel onto you than the ones we have preached let them be accursed and this what happened to watchtower!

DivineJustice-xljw
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Another slam dunk argument using their translation is to go to Psalm 102:25-27 "You, LORD (Jehovah), have laid the foundations of the earth from the beginning..." and ask them who that is speaking of. They will have to answer that it is speaking of Jehovah (Yahweh). Then, take them into Hebrews 1:8-12, where the writer quotes that text and says that it is speaking about Jesus in verse 10-12. Then ask them who the writer to the Hebrews is talking about, and in context there is no other way to read it than to say that it's talking about Jesus. At that point you probably won't even need to make your argument. They'll probably push back, but their own faulty translation still says that Jesus is Jehovah.

HartyBiker
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These wojaks are my sense of humor. Never thought id see these merge with apologetics but im here for it 😂

kalebroberts
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Im a 14 year old Jehovah's Witness, and I personally just don't see how God could be three people at once. Why would one God be stronger than the other, Jesus says Jehovah is his father, meaning he made him, the Trinity itself is literally NEVER stated in the Bible, and is a theory.

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John 5:22-23 and Matthew 16:27 make it clear Jesus does all of the judging and the Father judges no one at all. So then who is speaking in Revelation 22:12? Jesus! Which means in Revelation 22:13 Jesus is claiming to be the Alpha and the Omega; a title reserved exclusively for Jehovah/Yahweh. Also Revelation 22:20 proves it is Jesus speaking in Revelation 22:13 too. Use these verses because they have added the word "other" into the NWT in Colossians 1 (which you can actually prove to them using their kingdom interlinear Greek translation). Also see Isaiah 44:6 and Revelation 1:8. There can't be two Alpha and Omegas.

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1:12 If the drawing for "you and me" in that picture are those stick figures... are we... holding hands?

TheWoodlandSeamstress
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The recent discovery of approx 1800 years old mosaic in Israel depicting Jesus is God is one of the best physical evidence...

Cathrynne
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You can do the same thing with Rev 3:15. Every created thing worships the One on the throne AND the Lamb. The Lamb is excluded from the category of created things.

Norbingel
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2:28 proof that chess is older than time!

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All I know is that I love God, Jesus, Mary and the Holy Spirit ✝️💜💫

Riku_addict
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The power of God's word! The Word is power! Alleluia!

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Here is a small introduction of Jehovahs Witness Apologetics! (That is in defense of Jehovahs Witnesses:

Premise 1: Jesus created all things.
Premise 2: Jesus is the Son, and not the Father or the Holy Spirit.
Premise 3: Only Jesus is said to have created all things.
Conclusion: Therefore, neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit created all things.



This leads to a potential contradiction within classical Trinitarian theology, which asserts that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-equal, co-eternal, and share one divine essence—including the act of creation.

So my argument exposes this philosophical dilemma:
• If Jesus alone created all things, and if creation is an exclusively divine act, then Jesus alone possesses this divine attribute—implying that the Father and Holy Spirit do not.
• Therefore, either:
(a) Trinitarianism is false, because the persons are not equal in divine power, or
(b) the Bible or theology is internally inconsistent.



Philosophical Point:
My logic forces a reevaluation of what it means to say “Jesus created all things.” Is that statement exclusive (Jesus alone), or representative (Jesus as agent)? If it’s exclusive, then the traditional Trinitarian view struggles!. If it’s not exclusive, then the Bible’s language is imprecise or metaphorical—raising questions about the clarity of revelation.



So, what does this imply?
It implies either a non-Trinitarian Christocentric monotheism (where Jesus alone is God), or it forces reinterpretation of “creation” as a shared act—thus rejecting a literal reading of the claim that Jesus alone created all things.

InvestigadorTJ
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I think verses 14 and 1 do it quicker...
"The Word became flesh" - you could make a case that this is the breath of life for Adam and Eve, but that doesn't make sense because they were created by the word and weren't literally the word after some transformation, thus implying that The Word is Jesus

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I had a friendly discussion with four Jehovah Witnesses today..

They told me JW believe Jesus is a God but NOT Almighty God. Basically to them Jesus is a smaller god

YourCryptoCrew
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always a great day when testify uploads!

iamworstyoutuberngl-enmq
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A BIG fact is also that (at least on the french version of their website) in the « bible and you // what does this verses mean ? // John 1:1 » section they just blew themselves. They say that he created all OTHER things, while quoting the verse wich says « all things » !! I love pointing that out to them, that shuts them completely.

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A Response to the Anti-JW Argument Using John 1:3

There are several critical issues with using John 1:3 as a proof text against Jehovah’s Witnesses or any non-Trinitarian view of Jesus’ identity. Let’s unpack the problems in a clear and logical sequence:



1. The Definition of “Uncreated” Is Not Absolute
The argument assumes that everything outside of God is created. But that’s misleading. For example, energy is scientifically understood to be neither created nor destroyed—only transformed. This shows that not everything that exists fits neatly into “created” or “uncreated” categories as the argument assumes.



2. Trinitarian Logic Collapses Under Its Own Definitions
According to Trinitarianism, all three persons—Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit—are co-eternal and uncreated. But John 1:3 says that all things came into existence through Jesus.
If “all things” includes everything that exists, then the Father and the Holy Spirit would logically fall under the category of “created, ” because they are not Jesus. That’s a contradiction for Trinitarians.



3. One Creator or Three? A Logical Dilemma
John 1:3 states: “Apart from him [Jesus], nothing came into existence.”
If we take this literally and absolutely, then only Jesus is responsible for all creation.
But Trinitarianism asserts that all three persons of the Godhead share in creation. So which is it:
• Is there one creator (Jesus only)?
• Or are there three distinct creators?
This is a serious theological problem: you can’t have three persons but only one doing all the creating without collapsing the persons into one—a form of modalism.



4. Does “All Things” Include the Father and the Spirit?
John 1:3 says “all things came into existence through him.”
Ask yourself: Does the Father exist? Does the Holy Spirit exist? If yes, then they must fall into the “all things” category—unless you arbitrarily redefine “all.”
This exposes a category error—you can’t claim Jesus created everything and then exclude certain beings (like the Father and Spirit) just because it’s theologically inconvenient.



5. Hidden Presuppositions and Category Fallacies
This argument assumes that angels, Satan, and other spiritual beings are created—yet the Bible doesn’t say when they were created.
It also claims Jesus created “all things visible and invisible”, but fails to show how that includes angels and Satan, but excludes the Father and Spirit—who are also invisible spiritual beings.
This is a category fallacy, mixing metaphysical categories (created vs. uncreated) without clear boundaries.



6. Misuse of John 1:3 as a Standalone Text
Using John 1:3 in isolation ignores broader biblical context.
For instance, Scripture elsewhere says that things were created through Jesus but because of the Father’s will.
Jesus himself said: “I do not seek my own will, but the will of him who sent me” (John 5:30).
This shows Jesus as a subordinate agent of the Father’s purpose—not an independent or sole creator.



7. Historical Church Fathers Believed Jesus Was Created Wisdom
Many early Christian writers (e.g. Origen, Justin Martyr) identified Jesus with “Wisdom” in Proverbs 8—which says wisdom was created and worked alongside God as a “master worker.”
This offers a coherent, non-Trinitarian understanding of creation:
• Jesus (as Wisdom) worked with the Father—not independently or equally.
• This historical belief is consistent with Proverbs 8 and John 1, and it predates the fully developed Trinitarian doctrine.
Modern Trinitarians often avoid this interpretation because it undermines their view of Jesus as eternal and uncreated.



In Summary:
Trinitarian arguments based on John 1:3 fall apart under philosophical and theological scrutiny. The verse, when taken literally, either:
• Forces you to say only Jesus is God, excluding the Father and Spirit; or
• Forces you to reinterpret “all things” in a way that contradicts the text itself.

A more consistent interpretation is that Jesus, the Son, is a created being (as “Wisdom”), through whom God created all other things, in accordance with God’s will—not as one of three equal, eternal persons.

InvestigadorTJ
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