4WD REAR BAR CHOOSE WISELY or WASTE MONEY

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4WD REAR BAR CHOOSE WISELY or WASTE MONEY

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I have a Raslarr rear bar, hand built with love (not associated with company) cost ==double kidney + gonads, but built to last, made in Vic ..

lucysoutdoors
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When I put a Norweld canopy on my Dmax I removed the Isuzu tow bar and installed a Hayman Reece Xbar. It improved the departure angle, tidies up the look of the arse end and provides rated recovery points. Whilst I don’t intend on towing regularly, the tow ball is an excellent radiator insertion device for tailgaters!

Wilbargosh
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Uncle Ronny coming in clutch with the good advice again. Was just thinking about a rear bar a couple of days ago. After watching this it’s down to about 5 on my list of priorities

markhowells
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A good rear bar should replace the tow bar and have it integrated in the bar itself also the "recovery points" should be inline with the chassis so there is as much structure behind it as possible

trueys
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Here’s a good idea of a hybrid system to the rear bar for dual cabs with tubs; if your not planning to carry a spare tyres all the time on the back/carrying extra gear, why not look for a rear bar that does not have swing-away arms and focus on the protection aspect with built in recovery points. Nowadays you see more of the tow-hitch mounted swing-away arms that can carry your spare wheel/gear on it, and since most rear bar brands have built in tow hitch (ARB example) which is raised from the factory position, you’ll generally will have a better departure angle and the versatility as you can still hook up your spare underneath in daily use, but then pop it on the tow-hitch mounted arm for when your off road.

Just another way in cost, use and weight consideration in my book.

cjaussienerfer
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Here is an interesting experience we had at the panel shop I worked at. An MN Triton dual cab ute came in with a bent chassis. Only towing a camper trailer on Fraser and just sleeping gear in the tub. Insurance would not honour the claim as it was a failure and not accident. We then went to Mitsubishi for a warranty claim. They inspected the vehicle and also denied a claim becayse it had an ARB rear step/tow bar. The reason for this was because the square tow hitch sat much further back than the factory tow bar, hence increasing the leverage and subsequently adding additional stress onto the chassis.

boostedbmw
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It's popular for the folks who run my rig model to do a bar with swing away tire carrier. My problem is I wanted to be able to park my rig inside my garage. A tire mounted to the back would have made it too long. In the long run I am glad I didn't go that route. I have the spare inside the cab, I've never needed to pull it out on the trail and I have quick access to the fridge and stuff without having to swing the tire out of the way.

olliehopnoodle
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We had 'fun' with the rear bar on our old 60 series. It had a swing away wheel on it that after one particularly rough track ended up sitting at a 45 degree angle. We were lucy the the whole thing didn't fall off. Fixed it with some rebar (yeah the construction stuff) thta was welded underneath. It never broke again. I prefer the setup on the 90 with the spare wheel flush against the back door.

WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
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G'day, I have 3 "cons" to add to tour list.
1. Rear bars with swing out cariers get in the way of easy access to the tray/rear of the vehicle. espcially if you have 2 fitted.
2. Swing out carriers must be swung out every time you want to open the rear tailgate.
3. Rear bars may mess with parking censors and reverse cameras.

skullandcrossbones
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Thanks for a great insight and honest feedback. A couple of things that I didn't think of or would of thought that the manufacturer would of done properly

seanchristie
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Absolutely loving these in-depth videos Ronny! Super helpful, thank you!

_gelopski
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Great info thanks Ronny. Yes I still want a rear bar. Main reason is so I can put draws in the back as access to the lowering/raising mechanism is through the back floor and I don't want to build a shelf tp put the draws and fridge on. Plus the protection of body panels

FlatBrokeAdventures
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I have a rear bumper from 4x4labs in Grass Valley CA. The accessory brackets are interchangeable and can be removed, so I can throw my spare and tools in the back for the vast majority of time when my rig is just on the street. The install involves cutting the back of the frame off and it slides over the remaining rails. Super tough and greatly improves departure angle.

Powder coating never last. I paint my armor with POR-15, then spray with Raptor Liner. Done and done.

Off topic...The tailgate is possibly the most important aspect of a good over-lander. It's your workbench, picnic table and place to change your cloths. It extends the bed so you can haul lumber and other long items (like a pickup truck) and corrals your stuff when you need to get something out on a steep hillside. Barn doors and swing gates suck. I dare you to get something out of the back of your truck on a steep hill. Very disappointed that the new Landcruiser no longer has a tailgate. I'll keep my 80. Cheers Ronny

Bmaenpaa
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Its a good idea to do a parts audit prior to starting installation as you don't want to find fasteners or other required items missing whilst in the process of installing it.

glennchapman
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I have a raslarr rear bar on my Y62 Australian made and they have great videos showing how they basically do everything in house. They're always updating their bars too looms are now plug in and the Towbar is incorporated so you don't have to buy it seperate ($1000 saved)
Yes they're expensive but comparable to the big brands and made in Australia and they take pride in their work.

SomervilleMetalWorks
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I bought a used JK rear bar on marketplace. It is lighter and has recovery points, better bracing and backup lights. Replaced my heavier 15 yr old plain jane bar. Glad I upgraded bar.

donlum
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Finally! I've been waiting months for this video! Thanks Ronny! Now I can decide which bar to get for my corolla.❤

rabbiez
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Straight to the point! Just took delivery of my kaymar rear for a discovery 3 but i wont be back to install for another year…oops

willbruce
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My truck is 5 feet(154cm) longer than a Troopy. Makes me laugh a good bit when he talks about adding an extra 200mm in overall length is something you need to consider when driving in a parking lot, lol.
I wish your government didn't have such strict rules, would be great to see your off road community be able to branch out more. But I'm guessing they are there because too many people abused the roads over the years. Hard to maintain so many roads with such a small population, just part of the game.
I traveled out to Melbourne, Sydney and Perth while in Australia. Crazy that here in Texas we have more people than your entire country.
Though I'm sure people who live in Tokyo feel the same about Texas considering them having a population of 37 million!

RambunctiousHamster
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I bought a rock armour rear bar for my gu. The only issues I have with it is that it didn’t come with fitting instructions I had to YouTube it, doesn’t accommodate for the 3 inch exhaust for side wing bracket to the chassis and the spare wheel pokes out a lil to far out past the side of the vehicle for my likings. Easy to fix which I’ve already modified to suit. All in all a good bar for the price. Plenty of strength in the swing aways as I’ve seen on the cheaper end of rear bars crack due to not having enough support to carry the weight. Rock amour was $1000 cheaper than say a kaymar or Norweld and I believe it’s great value for money bar.

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