Socionics - Introverted thinking (Ti) examples. How to know if you have high valuing Ti or not.

Examples of Ti can manifest. Ti is about organizing, structuring, classifying and defining things. Individuals with valued high Ti tend to appreciate and develop their own structures of understanding. Those that do not value Ti or have weak Ti tend to ignore these structured classifications. Some TI polr types may take it a step farther by actively seeking to discredit these structures or deny that classifications have any value.

Taxonomies, dichotomies, classification charts, tightly defined principles whether about religion, economics , ecology, political parties, philosophy ,all utilize a form of Ti.

Ti DOES NOT EQUAL IQ !!!!!!!! DONT BE STUPID. THIS IS A PERSONALITY TRAIT THAT TENDS TOWARDS CLASSIFYING AND DEFINING THINGS. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOUR IN MENSA!!!! NO ONE IN SOCIONICS HAS EVER SUGGESTED OTHERWISE.

Interview of Fi polr.

[arroganceinvictus]

I like how in the question you asked in Jacks typing session, you included, "over time."
Too many people think that if a timeline is involved at all, the Ni supersedes the Ti. Been typed Ni ego many times for being interested in genetics and anthropology, when in reality it's obvious Ti ego.

[jaredvaughan]

Darionardi's brain scans show the categorizing is Ti & Ne.

Organizing is Ti & Se.

[shaneaverystarr]

I like that you went beyond biology taxonomies to explain this concept. Would I would find interesting and what I'm going to explore on my own is the comparison and contrast of a high Ti user versus a high Te user who has strong Ti but does not value it. While descriptions of the functions in each of the available eight slots are out there, what would really be interesting is to have a taxonomy of the functions in each of their respective spots which includes how they relate to the same functions in other spots. For example, what are the similarities and differences of an LIE like yourself with three-dimensional Te but unvalued, and an ILE like Jack who values Ti yet even still it is also three-dimensional. Who would have better Ti in which circumstances? In practice, how would your uses of Ti look similar, and how would they be different? Coming full circle to the biology taxonomies, this would be akin to explaining why a whale shark isn't in the same category as a whale of the same size (it isn't a mammal) instead of just listing them in their proper brackets and leaving it at that.

[victorangeles]

seems accurate for me at least. ENTP here the whole feelers liking enneagram matches. I've been into typology for a good awhile, but I've never been into enneagram.
Was able to type myself through socionics because of dimensionality. Like understanding that I have 2 dimensional Se I was able to understand that I'm an EN type. Then I had to ask if my Te was 4d or my Fe was 4d. I came to the conclusion that my Te was 4d. After that I came to the conclusion that I was an ENT, then I had to ask whether I value Ne or Te more. Ne is more interesting to me so I came to the conclusion that I'm an ENTP.

[arroganceinvictus]

Ti gang, rise up! (in order of IQ and genetic origin)

[dxfifa]

I am an ambiverted leaning INTP and I really think your Ti examples are far more Ti Se Ni than Ti Ne Si. Or actually more like how Te with Ni process logic.

Ti with Ne is not everything in its right place and acquiring facts as much as it is understanding which things are possible logically. It's more like a series of Venn Diagrams with probabilities or probability trees with massive branching and using Si to access previous probability trees/Venn diagrams that are relevant to see all possibilities and the perceived likelihood.

Whereas Ni using thinkers tend to be much more like "hypothesis, check for contradiction. No contradiction = true and check again if needed later" Or they just use non branching trees with probability of 1 or 0 and then throw out the tree if it's 0. Now all Ti users have such a massive bank of facts and knowledge that this isn't usually an issue and actually helps getting things done. And the ISTP needs to get things done to understand their judgements of the world. Ne wastes so much time. The NTPs do things very differently to the STPs and NTJs. Having either Ni or Te makes things seem more Te when you look externally. NTPs are the only ones truly in their heads thinking about thinking, rather than having S or Te making them want to do shit with their thinking

Ti/Ne users tend to absorb facts less deeply in memory in isolation, but wonder why and what else and then absorb the system and conceptual meaning. Ti/Ni users tend to absorb facts more deeply in the memory and use them without deep diving. I'm bad at remembering facts for facts sake compared to Ti/Ni users, who are the best of all at it. Which means when I don't know the why I often struggle to remember and use things I saw

My thought with the fox example was not "cool, here is the facts about foxes classification". I notice lots of Ni users who use T over F say a lot of facts with no context to what is interesting conceptually. It'd be like seeing a fox at a zoo and saying "Did you know foxes are members of the canidae family?". I don't really care Mr INTJ unless we're going into concepts and abstract

It was "what is a fox, how many levels do you go up until it's not a fox? Are Canidae considered dogs?" and " What is the classification system called? Oh Taxonomy? What does that mean in Latin exactly? Actually how did Vulpes become fox? Where is the origin of "Fox" from? Etcetera. I can go for hours from one thing through Ne tangents or deep dives.

Ti/Ni is very much like Te except there's a lot of subconscious processing in the Ti user that means they do understand concepts and ideas on a deep level before they consciously think about it. It can look like Te from the outside for sure. The Se means it's a lot more action oriented in terms of how they collect their logical information. The ISTP is not likely to sit around thinking all day, but thinking while doing, and when they do think, it's about halfway between INTJ and INTP

[liliya_aseeva]

I very controversially think that both socionics, enneagrams, and even horoscopes have something in common. People who use such systems try to find some set of rules to approach certain people. But this does not work. A person can have one cognitive function active during his work day and other during his evening, or depending on the mood. No one has his character set in stone. Only introversion and extraversion is stable to a degree, but even that, introversion is usually not inherent but a result of some unusual experiences in childhood.

[jaredvaughan]

Mostly Ti & Ne in the Enneagram too.

Like Ausra, principal founder Oscar Ichazo is generally typed NeTi.

And like Gulenko, Co-founder Claudio Naranjo was TiNe.

Enneagram tritype founder Katherine Farvre self types as NeTi.

Russ Hudson is TiNe.

Beatrice Chestnut (NeFi) is the only major Enneagram figure I can think of not Ti/Ne valuing.

And that is because she is the master of repackaging Ne & Ti theories.