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066 JSJ Transitioning to JavaScript
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Panel
Joe Eames (twitter github blog)
Merrick Christensen (twitter github)
Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up)
Discussion
01:10 - Making the transition from one primary language to JavaScript
01:30 - Merrick’s Experience
ActionScript
03:32 - Joe’s Experience
.NET
Microsoft
07:46 - Moving from C# to JavaScript
Misconceptions
09:25 - JavaScript Misconceptions
10:59 - Chuck’s Experience
Ruby on Rails
14:25 - Rails and JavaScript Avoidance
15:25 - Microsoft and JavaScript Avoidance
16:58 - JavaScript Development in General
Browsers and Problems
23:38 - Libraries and Tools
044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman
Effective JavaScript by David Herman
24:45 - Code Structure
28:00 - Learning core concepts behind JavaScript
29:11 - Understanding Clojures, Scoping & Context
29:53 - Testing
31:35 - Deviating off the common path
33:10 - Idiomatic JavaScript
Picks
Dart (Merrick)
ES6 Plans (Merrick)
Defiance (Joe)
America's Got Talent (Joe)
StarCraft II World Championship Series (WCS) (Joe)
Continuum (Chuck)
Fringe (Chuck)
CleanMyMac (Chuck)
Book Club
JavaScript Allongé with Reginald Braithwaite! He will join us for an episode to discuss the book on August 1st. The episode will air on August 9th.
Next Week
Testem with Toby Ho
Transcript
CHUCK: Yeah, I can pretend I’m getting better at JavaScript.
CHUCK: Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 66 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames.
JOE: Hi there.
CHUCK: And Merrick Christensen.
MERRICK: Hey guys.
CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.TV. And this week, we’re going to be talking about, I think it’s kind of a blend of making the transition from one primary language to JavaScript, it usually happens through web development, and some of the mistakes that people make when their primary language is not JavaScript. Let’s go ahead and get started.
Merrick, you’re kind of the expert guy that I always look at and go, “Man, he’s awesome at JavaScript.” So, I’m wondering, did you start out at JavaScript or did you come in from somewhere else?
MERRICK: Oh, that’s really nice of you, man. I actually started out with ActionScript. I really loved Flash developments, but it’s the same thing, really. They’re both based off of ECMAScript. So, I guess you could say I’ve always done JavaScript.
JOE: So, ActionScript is nearly identical to JavaScript?
MERRICK: Well, not anymore. ActionScript 3 developed classes and they typed it and they did some interesting things to make it more of a full-featured language. It’s got more [inaudible] than JavaScript now, I think. But I ended up getting into JavaScript when I was like 17 or so. I came across the MooTools framework and ever since then, it’s been all JavaScript all the time.
CHUCK: You’re pretty young. Wasn’t that last year?
[Laughter]
MERRICK: Close. No, about six years, five years of JavaScript.
JOE: You’re also, though, like a real student of languages. You love studying other languages.
MERRICK: I love programming languages, yeah.
JOE: I think you’re a pretty funny, not necessarily unique,
Panel
Joe Eames (twitter github blog)
Merrick Christensen (twitter github)
Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up)
Discussion
01:10 - Making the transition from one primary language to JavaScript
01:30 - Merrick’s Experience
ActionScript
03:32 - Joe’s Experience
.NET
Microsoft
07:46 - Moving from C# to JavaScript
Misconceptions
09:25 - JavaScript Misconceptions
10:59 - Chuck’s Experience
Ruby on Rails
14:25 - Rails and JavaScript Avoidance
15:25 - Microsoft and JavaScript Avoidance
16:58 - JavaScript Development in General
Browsers and Problems
23:38 - Libraries and Tools
044 JSJ Book Club: Effective JavaScript with David Herman
Effective JavaScript by David Herman
24:45 - Code Structure
28:00 - Learning core concepts behind JavaScript
29:11 - Understanding Clojures, Scoping & Context
29:53 - Testing
31:35 - Deviating off the common path
33:10 - Idiomatic JavaScript
Picks
Dart (Merrick)
ES6 Plans (Merrick)
Defiance (Joe)
America's Got Talent (Joe)
StarCraft II World Championship Series (WCS) (Joe)
Continuum (Chuck)
Fringe (Chuck)
CleanMyMac (Chuck)
Book Club
JavaScript Allongé with Reginald Braithwaite! He will join us for an episode to discuss the book on August 1st. The episode will air on August 9th.
Next Week
Testem with Toby Ho
Transcript
CHUCK: Yeah, I can pretend I’m getting better at JavaScript.
CHUCK: Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 66 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames.
JOE: Hi there.
CHUCK: And Merrick Christensen.
MERRICK: Hey guys.
CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.TV. And this week, we’re going to be talking about, I think it’s kind of a blend of making the transition from one primary language to JavaScript, it usually happens through web development, and some of the mistakes that people make when their primary language is not JavaScript. Let’s go ahead and get started.
Merrick, you’re kind of the expert guy that I always look at and go, “Man, he’s awesome at JavaScript.” So, I’m wondering, did you start out at JavaScript or did you come in from somewhere else?
MERRICK: Oh, that’s really nice of you, man. I actually started out with ActionScript. I really loved Flash developments, but it’s the same thing, really. They’re both based off of ECMAScript. So, I guess you could say I’ve always done JavaScript.
JOE: So, ActionScript is nearly identical to JavaScript?
MERRICK: Well, not anymore. ActionScript 3 developed classes and they typed it and they did some interesting things to make it more of a full-featured language. It’s got more [inaudible] than JavaScript now, I think. But I ended up getting into JavaScript when I was like 17 or so. I came across the MooTools framework and ever since then, it’s been all JavaScript all the time.
CHUCK: You’re pretty young. Wasn’t that last year?
[Laughter]
MERRICK: Close. No, about six years, five years of JavaScript.
JOE: You’re also, though, like a real student of languages. You love studying other languages.
MERRICK: I love programming languages, yeah.
JOE: I think you’re a pretty funny, not necessarily unique,
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