Lesson 19: Causative + 'causative passive': what they NEVER tell you! It's logical and super easy

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I'm not sure about the use of causative-receptive, by what I understood for the last part of the video the causative-receptive is "receiving a compel to do something", is always the case? I mean all the cases where we use this two verbs in this way are "compelling" someone to receive an action. There other uses of this two verbs in this sequence?

I also suppose the combination of receptive-causative (like 食べられさせた) exists, if my train of thoughs are right it might mean "I allow someone to fed me" or something like that, am I correct?

umascariatuerich
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"Causes people to receive a great deal of confusion" hehe, clever

pekgcgm
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If you call it "the passive"
Confusion is massive.
It's far less deceptive
To say "the receptive".

Wonderful.

Powerphail
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The red and blue boxes (around the train segments) are very helpful visually!

ElectricDragonfly
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Appreciation and gratitude to anyone who's recommended this channel in the comment section of a different Japanese-learning channel, because that's how I finally found it.

TokyoXtreme
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Thank you for this video (and all the other ones you did so far).
I stumbled upon your channel a few days ago because I was reviewing the passive form and was looking for additional information besides the ones in my textbook. Your video about this topic was so extremely informative and easy to understand that I was completely amazed.
Then I watched your videos about は and が because even after half a year of self-study I never really understood the difference between these two, despite having read so many articles about it. But while watching your videos it finally clicked and I feel like I finally understood it. Same with transitive and intransitive verbs.
I love how you explain why everything works the way it does instead of simply saying "For this use particle x and for that particle y and that's it. Just learn it, " without further explanation.
The visuals with the different trains are also very helpful, especially in this video. It is not a lie when I say you are the best Japanese tutor I know.
Sorry for the long comment but I really had the urge to thank you for your excellent videos.
Your explanation skills are legendary and very much appreciated. Can't wait for the next lesson :)

SternenSchokoKeks
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I accept no other Japanese grammar explanations, only from Cure Dolly! This is brilliant and so easy to understand. I love how your lessons always seem to cover the exact questions that are popping in my head as I watch the video, as if I had asked them.
いつもありがとうございます

sirmoco
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I gotta say, the last like 5 to 10 videos in this series has been going waaay over my head. But then again, I never studied English to know what sounds right to say or write, so I'm just gonna keep trusting the process and keep watching as many Japanese content as I can so I can get get the same feel for the language.

mullergui
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"causes people to receive a great deal of confusion" <3 your videos are such a source of joy, inspiration, and wisdom - you are dearly missed Dolly Sensei

lkrv
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11:55 "The causative passive, when taught with the standard grammatical model, causes people to receive a great deal of confusion."
I see what you did there, you cheeky dolly, you... :D

Also, nice Koch snowflake on the broccoli (13:33).

aaaab
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Again I have to thank you Cure Dolly for making this so much clearer. Also your zero ga subject video lesson is brilliant. I spent ages trying to work this out from text books and other teachers, all of who failed to explain the zero subject adequately. A huge thanks again.

hisodesu
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i revisited this because i couldn't remember which helper goes with receptive and which goes to causative. your inclusion of the causative being aligned with する (i now remember it with the "s" starting sound) and receptive belonging to ある will really help moving forward.

suikaibuki
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So, I'm almost at your 20th lesson, Dolly 先生! It's been a bit of a hard ride to me, maybe because I'm not that familiar with English. But i can certainly feel i can understand more things. I want to get to watch the entire course and then rewatch it again hahah
I tend to forget things a lot but having you as my first example for learning rather than textbooks and so on probably made my learning process much gentler. And I'm grateful towards you for that. Well then. I'll keep watching! And keep commenting your videos :P thank you a lot!! Really!!

lucianoromanlarrocca
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I really can't recover from how genius this is....

amarug
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Me, reverting back to what I was before following this channel, as Cure Dolly-sensei said the causative can use both NI and WO: "oh no why is this happening the particles are changing I don't know what they are anymore I hate them".
A moment later I updated to present and thought: "wait, the particles meanings don't change, and if both particles can be used I'm sure Cure Dolly-sensei will explain why in a way it makes sense". And she did! Thank you.

aocchan
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Wow... i feel like i just received total enlightenment.

Its true non-native can give more detailed explanations than native speakers (based on my exp & from people i know).


I've been on edge coz i have an exam tomorrow & i still cant comprehend the difference between causative & causative-passive. So i've been rummaging youtube regarding this topic & i almost gave up (which im glad i didnt) coz its about to hit midnight... fortunately, i found your channel.

& im at a loss for words. This really helped me a lot! Thank you <3

apolkizh
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I think this lesson is best so far. Very clear explanation and presentation, great example sentences (ブロッコリーが嫌いだ).

You set the bar quite high with this one, I wonder if you can make next one even better! :)

TheRobik
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Thinking of せる/させる and れる/られる as helper verbs rather than conjugations is especially useful and much easier to understand with things like receptive-causative statements. When you learn each form as conjugations that you are then doing to the result of conjugations of course it looks confusing. Thinking of them as helper verbs makes it simpler and also makes it easier to understand the structure when you can break it down piece by piece. Thank you for the video!

beabeato
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my head is spinning with this lesson but it's yet another great learning i have! will visit this video once again to understand it further, , thank you Cure Dolly-sensei.

abryyea
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Great explanations once again ドリ先生. As a side-note, I watched a video from a translator who learned Japanese years ago from the textbooks.
Just as an example: she has a video on particles and said that you need at least 1-2 years to really understand the difference between は and が . Not anymore, haha.
Japanese is nice and logical after all.

Sixxpounder