Why You Need to Watch Out for Shady Musicians

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Don't get scammed by shady musicians! Watch this video to learn why you need to watch out for them in the music industry. Protect yourself and your music career!

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That guy burned bridges with a whole band which means it will be multiplied by a factor of 10. As the saying goes, "Do a good job they tell 5 people, do a bad job they tell 10"

jacobsmithjr
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This is one of the reasons I quit the industry. So many flaky people, back stabbers, and bad actors. It's sickening.

mrwebbofficial
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I fixed this by giving people a breakdown of the performance fee vs. rehearsal fees in my rider. (Yes, I charge rehearsal fees!) It gets me around the people who try to get me to commit to an honorarium, THEN start trying to schedule all these "added" rehearsals!
Because some people don't want to pay deposits, I also charge the non-refundable variety. It eliminates the people who aren't about business!

mr.dennis
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And this is why " managers, agents, contracts, entertainment lawyers, " exist...
salute..👊🏼

papabois
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Excellent point. I have played in so many bands over the last 50 years. I learned early on, a rehearsal is for bringing it all together. Each musician must learn their parts before the rehearsal, NOT AT THE REHEARSAL. Telling someone just before the gig that "I got another band" is bad business. It brings to mind the saying "I'll see to it you never work in this town again!". Thanks for your videos and wisdom. Peace☮

Bernielandry
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The moment I got my mechanics ticket everyone started showing up at my place on Saturday wanting their cars fixed for free.

shanewoolsey
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I quit a band BECAUSE they didn't want to rehearse. I get not needing a rehearsal if you're familiar with the songs and the other musicians, but still.

WrvrUgoThrUR
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Really digging your channel, looking good, here’s to growth and prosperity!

patrickdudgeon
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We used to have functioning "Musician's Unions", that you paid dues, had monthly meetings & gigs were posted daily. In the '70s @ N.Y.C. I was a member of 'Local 802'. If you played "Union Rooms" you were paid "Union Scale", no problems. So many 'Clubs' have no affiliation with any Unions. In the '80s we used beepers & would hang in a bar or club waiting for the beeper to send a phone #. In the '90s beepers had messages on them & cell phones led into the 21st century. Technology changes, musical styles change, but "bad faith behavior" among musicians, bandleaders, producers, studio owners & club owners has led the "Music Business" less rewarding for all.

Stereotype
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Wow! This is what I gotta look 4ward to? That was messed up ALL THE WAY AROUND! Thanks for the video! I will sure keep an eye for that BS! Right on point!!🤨🎶🎸👍🏾

etpslick
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This was just on my mind this morning ‼️ some people ain’t who you think they are and it’s always some other musician that smiles in your face. I either keep my distance or have people put down deposits.

aveleofficial
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Love your channel, just figured.
Great stuff

mansosound
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Only 2 hours, I was playing with a band where there were vocalist auditioning. Three hours of of not knowing lyrics and out of tune singing. Then one of the actual singers came for rehearsal. There were other circumstances, but that was the last straw for me. I wished them the best and quit that band.

OranteFrazier
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I had a pastor text me two hours before service and said “service cancelled for the summer”

showrunner
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This why I quit the music industry back in the late 90s. Imagine how even worse it was back then. At least there's email, text and what not. Back then it was only phone numbers. Couldn't make ends meet, late rent, selling gear just to float another month. Bailed LA and had to move back in with mom in San Jose Ca. Shameful but I was always one paycheck away from being homeless.

djpetenice
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Guy I knew asked me to be a part of a project, he had a gig lined up. I traveled an hour each way to rehearsal for three weeks. Two of the other people in the band didn’t bother to practice the material. The gig Was an hour away. A few days before the gig, the guy tells me the pay was going to be about $90 and he was going to 1099 me. I was out! I don’t mind helping someone out, but I will not be taken advantage of!

tjsmith
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I had one worse. Was asked to become a part of an already existing band, attended 3 rehearsals, everyone was comfortable with how the outcome should turn out, come 10 minutes before the performance the lead singer not only shows up with minutes to spare, but didn't want to perform that night. As his boys went to the lobby to beg for him to perform, I'd already had a young lady from the area set to perform provided the lead singer pulled this stunt, because I'd witnessed him doing it to that same band months prior.

As soon as word got to the lead singer that there was a suitable replacement ready to go, he had a sudden change of mind, and performed with the band.

A few days after the performance, the band let me go due to, "causing unneeded friction within the band while not being a fully vested member of the band".

thespadestable
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I’ve had similar experiences.
If you’re around long enough, you’re bound to run into people like that.
It’s one of the reasons I mainly do solo gigs.
I just don’t want to deal with the frustration

alanjohnson
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AMEN .. I am like you brother, always ready to perform and don't mind jamming with anyone, and I have been done the same way with some guys I know, and i wasn't till later when the true colors came out and I discovered some well hidden resentments and jealousies that were unwarranted and not based on anything I did i made sure to ask if it was something I said or did that brought it on, and not one could say why hey felt that way. it was a bummer and then I decided to start recording my tunes an d just using y music as a backing track and performing, same thing when a local band, all friends of mine, kept trying out singers and each time the vocalist was like you said, unworthy of the position and they knew I could sing all the songs an never once needed a phone or teleprompter because i can recall lyrics from 1970 and forget why i opened the fridge...I finally asked them why I was always overlooked or not considered for the pat, the bassist was honest enough to say, "It's because you are an entity and we don't wanna be the Bear Ramsey band...I was so shocked and was shaken, because I have never had an ego. and always put the songs first. man i was lost ..and after hat i learned stuff about people i could have been well enuff not knowing

BearRamsey
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Oh wow that is unbelievable he did that at the last minute. As a bandleader for a 12 piece party cover band I would never dream of pulling that on my musicians . On the flip side I have on quite a few occasions experienced musicians totally forgetting gigs (once when we opened for a National act) or texting me (always a text never a voice call) they can’t make it with virtually no time for me
To find somebody else. As a bandleader I don’t have players sign contracts but my name is on the band contract for the event .. it’s all a handshake deal and hope all my players show up. I’ve had to get creative and change my set list for players arriving late as well.
I really enjoy your videos !!!!

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