Quick Technique Fix Chopin Etude 'Ocean' op.25 No.12

What I was calling here a “wrist rotation” is actually not a correct term in English. Since the impulse for this rotation comes from the elbow, and the whole forearm is being rotated, it should be called “forearm rotation” indeed.

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[ericastier]

I have all 24 etudes well in progress, and the ocean etude gave me a puzzling realization. My left hand is far better than my right. My left hand soon learned it and got more and more relaxed and accurate to a point that it reached near performance tempo. When i first started learning the left hand, it felt comfortable almost easy, i only had to adjust efficiency of movement and accuracy to get it up in speed over a few weeks. But the right hand has been the total opposite, a nightmare almost unthinkable that there would be such difference in the same person two hands. It tenses, fatigues struggles to gain speed and the thumb wants to bend inward in tension after just one page. I did significant visual and internal studying my left hand technique to transfer it to the right hand but nothing miraculous happened. I even mirrored some bars disregarding the harmony for repeated practice to make each hand alone (separate practice) play exactly the same intervals and keys type (black or white) so that they have to do the exact same movement in mirror ( except for the difference in action hardness between bass and trebble registers). The result: the sensation and ease of play of the left hand could not be transfered to the right hand. I closely watched my left hand every micro movement, analyzed every internal tacticle sensations i feel and tried to copy everything to the right hand. It has helped only a little. i can practice the left hand alone going through all 6 pages not too far below tempo and it sounds like i can play the etude with nice sound and when i do the same for the right hand, terrible, it sounds like a different student sat at the keyboard two grades lower in advancement, even slow is a struggle and i have to stop after 2 pages at most. This is insane and makes me in disbelief. I realize all the difference is how the brain uses the hand and processes its tactile sensations. Now i must say i am left handed but been playing the piano a long time, but never has a piece shown me this.
As a side note, i realize that if the piano itself was mirrored i would have already mastered Op 10 n 1 a long time ago (with the left hand) instead of having it in a semi mastered state where it's still at 3/4 speed but relatively clean but not reliable.

[ChanceQian]

Love your tutorial so much! Please make more, Master!:):)

[martinschulze]

I just decided to donate :-) compared to many other (still good) videos there is not much unnecessary blah but you go right to the essentials and most importantly explain pretty well the details of movement-ergonomics

[MrPhilou]

Very interesting, thank you so much 🙏 However, I always have issues with the descending arpeggios. I feel it’s harder to go down than to go up. I think I have to find the « trick » (or the proper movement). Also, some chords are pretty uncomfortable for small hands… I will keep on trying, it’s such a beautiful piece 😍

[StefanoMontani]

Playing it at a slow tempo is hauntingly beautiful.

[NekkRose]

hey, i've been playing this piece for few years but still can't play it at full tempo. On pianos with very light keys it's very easy but on piano with heavy keys like mine ( weinback from 80s) or gran piano like bluthner, i am litteraly destroying my arms. At the end of the piece i've a lot of tension in my forarms and elbow ( felling like a nerve inflamation for the elbow). I still don't know what i'm doing wrong, when i play I try and I feel relaxed as much as possible. The wrist movement is pretty natural and my hand are really like squids running all over the keyboard ( i think it was Josh Wright who said this ). I've tried with more body motion to accompany the hands, lower or rised my bench, but I didn't fine THE tip that would help me to play this beautiful piece as I want. I hope anyone could help me to find it ( and I hope my english was correct). :)

[karolpiql]

How you make a transition on repeated note with such rotation? It cannot be done loosely without accents on repeated notes. Making this etude smooth and even(dynamically and rhythmically) especially on repeated notes is main difficulty of this etude

[mr.p]

Interestingly enough, although I hear a lot that op.10 n.1 is very difficult, I don’t find it as difficult as the double thirds for example. I believe that each Etude was written with secret tips embedded to it by the genius himself.

[billligon]

It’s coming back down the keyboard that I find problems. It must be a ‘double rotation’??

[musiclover]

WRONG. It's 4s not threes It is NOT but rather 1111-1111-1111-1111-1111-1111

[NoneofyourBusiness-iips]

Have to say I don't agree with wrist rotation at all. The KEY of playing efficiently of this piece at speed is to minimize wrist rotation and use finger to transition almost entirely. You should feel like your arms are gliding across the keyboard while your wrist only doing very minimal movement. Almost all the work is going to be done by fingers.