Flash Flops - DC Reboot Desperately Needed

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[retloclive]

In hindsight, the worst thing to happen to the DCEU was Wonder Woman and Aquaman being big hits.

It convinced WB/DC to continue trying to push along this messed up cinematic universe that's been heavily flawed since day 1.

[countdooku]

Calling it now. Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are going to bomb as well. The DCEU ends with a whimper.

[RoyalT]

I swear to god John, if you say “this is not one of the best comic book movies of all time but it was great” one more time…..

[nicolasbaron]

You can already imagine how the folks at Warner Bros. are feeling right now after they tried to overhype this film a lot, only for it to fall flat right on their faces.

[bdtiger]

DCEU was divided into 2 parts. Snyderverse and Hamadaverse. It is very clear which movie belongs to which verse.

DCEU - Snyderverse:
1. Man of Steel (2013) - $668 M
2. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) - $873 M
3. Suicide Squad (2016) - $746 M
4, Wonder Woman (2017) - $822 M
5. ZS Justice League (2017-2021) - Stream
6. Aquaman (2018) - $1.1 B

DCEU - Hamadaverse:
1. Shazam! (2019) - $367 M
2. Birds of Prey (2020) - $205 M (covid effected)
3. Wonder Woman 1984 (2020) - $169 M (covid effected)
4. The Suicide Squad (2021) - $168 M
5. Black Adam (2022) - $393 M
6. Shazam: Fury of the Gods (2023) - $133 M
7. The Flash (2023) - $250 M (probably)

By the number of Box Office results it is clearly seen that putting Walter Hamada/Geof/Tobby Emmerich as head of DC Films was the worst idea. If WB was a little bit more patient with Snyder, they could have a steady universe right now. Putting film critics opinion ahead of actual audience leads to many flops in recent years like the Star Wars universe.

[Vislow]

Imagine going to see this over Across The Spiderverse

[MrCrisp_]

It’s almost like nobody cared about the DCEU once they announced that everything was being rebooted. There was nothing for the audience to invest into anymore

[theshowstopper]

As a DC fan this breaks my heart. People are literally giving up.on dc

[nikunjdixit]

I get why they overhyped the film, because they desperately needed the spin to overcome the Ezra Miller controversies, but it backfired. The film is honestly not that great. It is fun but very messy. And honestly, Keaton is just there for nostalgia purposes. There is no real depth to his character. The fact that he's an older Batman doesn't even play into the story. Fortunately or unfortunately, Ezra Miller is genuinely the best part of the film. It doesn't help that this film released on the heels of a much better multiverse film. And now the multiverse angle is getting played out, after two Spider-verse movies, Spider-man: NWH, DS2, Loki, Ant-Man 3 etc.... so this can't help but feel tired and repetitive.

[Incognitus_Mcgee]

I think ppl also hate Ezra. That fool belongs behind bars

[smartbrotha]

Nobody was hardly in the theater when I went.

[Spider-ManHQ]

Arguably "the greatest comic book movie of All-Time" got a 65% on Rotten Tomatoes (which no matter what John will say is not a good rating) and a B grade Cinemascore (which, to me, is the most important audience metric and most reliable when pointing to whether audiences like a movie or not). It'll fizzle quick

[AntiLifeEquation]

Avengers making a billion really fucked with WBs heads. Expectations and budgets need to be lowered.

[steunitedchannel]

Why when Cavill back as supes in black adam and they’re planned for MoS sequel and Sazlav focusing on trinity; the fans get hyped again? And suddenly gunn ruined it… and the fans don’t care anymore about dc and it’s started to flop and flop again

[furbl]

These DC movies like Shazam 2, Flash, Black Adam, definitely doesn't make Quantumania look that bad afterall.

[Tizzo]

Here in Hawaii, the Theaters weren't as full. I'm gonna say it's cause of Ezra Miller controversy

[atlien]

1. It was a horrible decision to announce the cancellation of the DCEU before releasing the remaining films for this particular universe. They effectively sabotaged any pre-built hype for remaining movies.

2. WB's marketing was & is extremely inconsistent. They increased marketing ten-fold to get people interested & hyped for The Flash which ultimately wasn't significantly any better than any DCEU film. But where was this marketing for Shazam or Black Adam? Blue Beetle & Aquaman - especially, feel like an afterthought. Plus the release schedules have been terrible.

3. This movie puts insane pressure on the new DCU. Aquaman & Blue Beetle can be the greatest works of cinema in the 21st century & I don't think the general populace will care enough to make them financial blockbusters. This means the new DCU will need to be stellar.

[misterbrady]

I thought it would be worse. When a guy claims to be the messiah, and does the things he did, well I simply can't support that in any way. I don't wish harm on him, but I am surprised that he isn't in jail or house arrest. I might catch it on streaming some day, but I certainly don't want to see it in a theater. I don't know anyone in my circles that wants to either.

[Termite]

They should've done a hard reboot. This soft reboot they are planning is going to bite them in the ass.

[mr.j]

Ezra sucked as the flash before he became a real life villain