How Turtle Creek Beat the Market Since 1998 | Value Investing Masterclass w/ Andrew Brenton (TIP592)

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Clay is joined by Andrew Brenton. Andrew Brenton is the CEO and co-founder of Turtle Creek.

Since its inception in 1998, Turtle Creek has achieved an average annual return of 20% versus just 7% for the market. $10,000 invested into their fund at inception would have grown to over $885,000 as of September 30, 2023, and had that money been invested in the market, it would have been worth just under $52,000.

IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:47 - How Andrew’s experience in private markets prepared him to take on public markets.
0:05:51 - Turtle Creek’s distinguished approach to value investing.
0:14:16 - What makes for a great, unique business for Andrew to get interested in.
0:18:30 - Why Turtle Creek chose to focus on mid-caps.
0:22:11 - How Turtle Creek avoids losing money on almost every investment they make.
0:25:05 - Why overpaying is the biggest risk for Andrew.
0:32:14 - How Turtle Creek improves upon an approach of simply buying and holding great
businesses.
0:39:41 - What led Turtle Creek to set up a synthetic private equity fund.
0:41:14 - An investment case study of Automation Tooling Systems.
0:50:03 - How Andrew determined that 25-30 companies in the portfolio is the right amount.
0:55:27 - What’s next for Turtle Creek in the next 25 years.
1:04:05 - The story of Turtle Creek being the largest shareholder of Home Capital Group prior to Berkshire Hathaway taking a major stake.
1:10:10 - How continuous improvement has played a role in Turtle Creek’s success.

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WeStudyBillionaires
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Amazing interview, wow this guy. He's the next level value investor. Ben Graham --> Munger/Buffett --> Turtle Creek. Like Munger/Buffett took Graham's teachings to the next level, this guy is taking Buffett to the next level.

stephenframpton
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Just bumped into the interview and i must say it was such a wonderful learning experience..I'm going to watch it over and over again..Here hoping to someday make it too.❤india

alverzenongkhlaw
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I've listened to it the second time now. Some great lessons in this episode, thank you Clay for bringing Andrew Benton on. Really inspiring and I'll return to no. 592 for sure.

RolfStumpfRailMedia
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Interesting rebalancing strategy. It does involve making at least 2 correct decisions (when to sell a position and then when to repurchase) and paying taxes in between. But obviously they’ve figured out a way to manage that. Thanks for the content.

twac
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The Fund has incredible performance at the very beginning. 1998 Oct - 2001 May almost uninterrupted growth and +500% while +25% for SPY or +30% Nasdaq100/QQQ.
HOW DID THEY DO THAT?
Hard to find a single stock with such a result back then. The only non-seasonal stock that comes to mind is NVIDIA yet it IPO-ed in 1999 Jan.
An outperformance continued since the pre GFC peak. +~1800% vs +60% both for SPY and QQQ who is the winner thenceforth. The broad market was beaten up to mid 2015 and they have been going pretty much hand in hand afterwards.
PS. Nothing comes close to APPLE. Yet barely nothing since the mentioned 2001 May but over +600x afterwards vs 14x for the Turtle. However today's benchmark was far away from being considered as such with its 6 bln market cap.

KamilMauel
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Are you sure they got 20% annually since 1998? where is the data coming from?

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