Niche Zero vs Varia VS3 Coffee Grinder | Comparison

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You asked for it so here it is :) Head to head battle of The Niche Zero and the brand new Varia Brewing VS3

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I’m just getting into grinding my coffee and I hated the idea of buying an entry level grinder then quickly outgrowing its capabilities so I didn’t want a “value” pick. After watching dozens of grinder reviews, I came across the VS3 and was quickly drawn to its sleek compact design. Of the $300 models, it seemed like one of the most capable to use for pour over or espresso. And the build quality seems very clean and solid. At half the price of the Zero after conversion rate, I decided to go with the VS3 (also considered Ode, Ode2, Wilfa Uniform, Turin SD40, Turin DF64, and others). When I went to their site, I saw that they’re shipping a “2nd generation” model with a slightly faster motor (190 rpm) and maybe I’m a sucker but their site was very impressive too. Really gave me the impression that the engineering design was high priority. Hopefully it will live up to the hype.

zmbe
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Thank you! I think I'd prefer the Niche as it still seems to be the easiest/ cleanest grinder on the market... but that's a lot of "free" coffee if I go with the Varia 🤔

NoZenith
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I’d like to know what’s an upgrade on the Niche Zero? The one thing I don’t like about the niche is the setting. I find it not precise enough. Also your close up at 3:20 has the wrong dosing cup, you started using your own and the close up is of the white dosing cup

ddealmei
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I mean compare what you want, but those 2 grinders are in quite different price categories. On Niche's website the Zero is 449 pounds, plus shipping and depending on where you live customs. Accounting for all costs, you're likely paying almost twice the price for the Zero compared to the Varia VS3 gen 2. So the Niche better be a lot better!

maxmeier
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So we should be comparing the grinders, right? So mate, kudos for using a WDT this time but you need to control your puck prep much better. Not so much stabby-stabby with the WDT but actually distribute the coffee and break up the clumps. Maybe use a bottomless so we can see that there are no issues with distribution/channeling so you can actually evaluate the grinders without fearing that your poor puck prep is the culprit for any differences you taste. The video has great production quality, but to be frank you've got to up the game a bit if you want seasoned espresso enthusiasts to trust your judgments.

cleanupinaisle
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Interesting! To make the comparison complete, a filter brew comparison would be very insighful.

stefanociamarra
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Would be interesting to see if Varia makes a 48mm conical burr to speed up the grinding time

derekchuan
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Niche Zero still the best single dose conical grinder for the money. More than 4 years and still on top in your category. Conical burrs are design for obtain more body than clarity. If you want clarity the flat burrs are the solution, example DF64, Eureka Mignon series, Lagom and others.

fgarced
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these machines are in different leagues, the niche has commercial components, which will last me 15 yrs based on my usage and I bought replacement burrs as well. The niche makes full bodied espresso with medium roasted organic beans and great filter coffee with a Japanese Hario immersion filter set up with paper filters (clear and clean taste). Personally the bellows especially the quality of it looks like it came off a moped or from AliExpress….

michaelcan
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This video has sadly not aged well, there are so many reports world wide of the VS3 having issues, its a shame because eI love everything about the design of this grinder. I would wait for VS4 if they make one ! In the meantime your better off paying more for a DF64 Gen 2 because of the large burr options! Yes its a flat burr grinder but you get more differences in taste with the cutting teeth geometry and the coating of the burrs that make a difference as opposed to conical vs flat .

CH-ypby
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Can you add a comment about how loud they are? And, how many seconds to grind 20 grams? I'd love to own a Niche, but at half the price... hard to argue against the Varia!

cdubinyyj
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Wait so which is better this or the niche?

publicname
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The Varia would be a nice match with Linea Micra

malnhar
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is it a plastic body ? is it metal body ? we don't know ..nice review very informative

BKxRepo
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I'd be really interested to see this grinder compared to the Turin SD40. Similar price point but very different implementation.

LimitedWard
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Did you notice the grind size moving while grinding on your Varia?

stephensmirke
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Does the VS3 have a power brick like the Lagom Mini/Femobook A68?

tlasia
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Thank you. Excellent comparison. James Hoffman ("The Coffee Hoff") has an Aussie competitor. PS like the white set up. Only missing a white grand piano.

georgcantor
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Can you talk about ease of dialing in and ease of cleaning?

KennethGoldbergkglegal
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i wonder that how about a varia vs3 at filter.
i already bought varia and Hypernova burr but i'll use that filter more then esspresso

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