Pannenberg, Jenson, and the Third Quest for the Historical Jesus (Intro to Christology)

This is the third and final part of a series of videos discussing developments in Christology in the twentieth century. I talk about Robert Jenson, Wolfhart Pannenberg, and the third quest for the historical Jesus.

[marilynmelzian]

I have been part of a project which has photographed many of the Dead Sea scrolls to make them available for research. I felt, especially in the 90s, that I was constantly playing cleanup after some of the wild theories came out and people in my church were swayed by some of them. The strange and scandalous theories always got more airtime than the genuine study.

[danielherrmann]

I love your channel. I am a reformed theologian watching from Switzerland. But, having just finished Jenson's ST, I didn't really get the impression you evaluated his project fairly, but rather read him from your standpoint of classical theism and thus finding him heterodox or, as you said, weird. But in my estimation, Jenson was very earnestly wrestling with understanding the living God of the gospel, while being committed to the mission of the church and also not avoiding difficult historical questions. He seemed to be reading a lot of 20th century German critical scholarship on the bible, but he very rarely followed their conclusions. When it came to his assessment of the historical reliability of biblical texts, I found him the be much more pleasantly conservative than your presentation of him made it seem.

[redeemedzoomer]

Dr. Cooper, I think I speak for all of us when I say, you NEED to make apologetics videos. None of the major apologists are good theologians. I hear you often making side comments that effortlessly explain tough apologetics questions that the top apologists visually labor to answer. I know you focus mostly on theology, philosophy, and history, but this is a way you have the capacity to serve God's kingdom!

[hillbillyhistorian]

Mainstream scholarship has become increasingly critical of NT Wright’s approach in the last few years; the same goes for Richard Bauckham’s work. Dale C. Allison is probably the best scholar to read for a contemporary Christian perspective on Historical Jesus studies; even Bart Ehrman considers him one of the best in the business.

[vngelicath]

As a side, I feel like Kleinig is a good example of using ANE scholarship in the service of confessional theology.

[toddvoss]

Agree that Bauckham is much better in writing than in oral debates . The debate with Ehrman being a good example. So frustrating because in paper his arguments are so much better than Ehrman’s. Bauckham is my favorite Protestant NT exegete, may be just my favorite period. I’ve read a number of his books

[Matt-Pursley]

In my reading of Pannenberg it seems to me that transcendence is what makes Pannenberg’s idea of the proleptic actions God something very close to classical arguments for simplicity.

What has been in God, is what will be, is what always was.

[AlbertDickinson]

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[anyanyanyanyanyany]

I believe Pannenberg also denied the virgin birth of Jesus by saying that it's myth, which seems odd given that he's willing to strongly argue for and defend the historicity of Jesus' bodily resurrection.

[iplaylespauls]

Yeah im gonna be the comment guy who gives you a bad time on the Van Til comment. Its far too simplistic, and really flatly wrong, to say he embraces the internal sense and rejects external or derived natural theology. He lays out his views in detail in Intro to ST, including in sections specifically about natural revelation about God. I like your work, but with all due respect I dont think your dealings with Van Til are very good at all.

[marilynmelzian]

I have been part of a project which has photographed many of the Dead Sea scrolls to make them available for research. I felt, especially in the 90s, that I was constantly playing cleanup after some of the wild theories came out and people in my church were swayed by some of them. The strange and scandalous theories always got more airtime than the genuine study.