Audio | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Ojai 1980 - The Ending of Time - Conversation 5

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J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Ojai 1980 - 5: The ground of being, and the mind of man

Series: The Ending of Time

Summary:

Why has having ideas become so important?

What is the difference between a religious mind and a philosophic mind?

What is the human mind’s relationship to the ground?

Why has man accumulated knowledge?

When you love somebody there is no ‘me’, it is love. In the same way, when I say I am humanity, it is so. It is not an idea, it is not a conclusion, it is part of me.

There is only one thing and that is to discover that what I have done is useless, ashes. You see, that doesn’t depress one. That is the beauty of it. It is like the Phoenix, born out of ashes.

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[vijayakolli]

Thank you for sharing all these talks! Wholeheartedly appreciate. 🙏🙏❤️

[becaudkuebena]

When we understand what is said, there is automatically a change in the energetic frequency of the body, we become very sensitive. Arriving at this point normally the search ends, and the mind must “recognize this state of being” and let the revolution take place.

[padeshan]

Reminding myself again n again 'You have never done anything like this before' Never ever.

listening anything properly is a big thing, and .. listening to this -- huge.

TO all who's lintning, remember, wat u r doing is an impossible task. with enough seriousness and alertness, the impossible will happen .

[fos_demetanoia]

Krishnamurti tries again and again, he tries to find ways to make a conditioned mind see that it has always perceived from a frame of comparison, and thus the same frame cannot be used to perceive something absolute. He puts up questions over and over again, chooses very carefully the words, because the moment he uses words, its relative. And it paints an image created by thought.

[arabianorangutang]

1:40 - Why have ideas become so important?
8:33 - How do I perceive the “ground”
25:05 - How can you aid me in seeing thought is meaningless?
47:35 - All your knowledge has no value
1:01:21 - Knowledge has only crippled me from seeing the truth

[topgun]

K is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 itself, can't be expressed in words, k only burns🔥🔥🔥🔥

[mavanijj]

🙌🙌🙌🙏🙏🙏both have arrived on this planet to help us ❤❤❤

[renukatandon]

though that can not be said in words ..k has done it so beautifully . hats off k.

[megachetyre]

It is the fire from within whose words we may hear in this conversation

[padeshan]

just think - a person who for more than 60 years of his life kept on waking people up from their slumber.

that care, compassion is just unfathomable.


need we more proof of the fact that this guy was conncted to that infinite energy source ..else a task of this magnitude is just unimaginable

[fiskjubilee]

I would love to hear Bohm and Krishnamurti have this discussioned with minds that have not been so conditioned with knowledge.

[ShipraGarg-fg]

Knowledge may be illusion in itself mind may be illusion😮😮

[silveriorossiadvogados]

then something new arises when we stop using thought. In the past video Krishinamurt says that insight appears when there is no movement of thought.

[emanuellopez]

In this specific discussion/video we shouldn't make any interpretation, I'm saying this because there are some comments using "pinpoint" words like *silence* *god* or *thought* I think we can all agree that using this words can confuse some of the viewers/listeners about what was really discussed in this marvelous dialogue.

[sylviagung]

There is no boat to cross. You can't swim across. In fact, you can't do anything about it.
... just drop your ego, then the energy is attracted by your inocence....
But how? Am I even willing to drop it?
What is ego? How has it come to being? When? Who started it? Why?

[michaelsaunders]

Love K's deep concern for the human condition and how.we must change if there is a possibility.

[MAYBE]

Sadly i think everyone commenting here as though they fully comprehend what is being said only do so intellectually, but not with any depth. It’s a depressing thought, but nevertheless true. I like listening to it but i know for a fact i dont comprehend shit or else i would be a different being

[renukatandon]

yes sir u have done it in me. though can not comment upon xy or z....huge thanks k

[thircegreat]

The center is an illusion, illusion cannot be related to that which is true. 40:49

[sylviagung]

All the wise men or enlightened persons were selfless.
And they said, in one way or another, "Know yourself!"...
Do they know themselves?
Do I know myself that all my doings and thoughts have done harm to humanity, looking at the way the world is now? "I am the world, and the world is me."
And humanity is supposed to be the Master of the Universe... can that sense of responsibility be borne?