CHARM DEEP DIVE EP.38: Carefree Melody - [Hollow Knight]

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The most relaxed Carefree Melody Charm guide on the internet.

Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:17 - Carefree Melody Deep Dive

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Thanks for watching folks! Working on this charm reminded me how bad I am at math. Thank god for the math subreddit existing and giving me a hand! 1 more ep out after this which will be the kingsoul/void heart one. then after that there will be a day or so until the final master video is out which has all eps in one, with added segments of charms where I missed a detail or two. it will also include an overcharming and notch location section at the end, so def worth a watch even if you've already seen them as singles :)

Vegathron

i dont care how evil the grimmchild is THEY LOOK ADORABLE

branch.

this is the first video to come up when searching carfree melody on google, congrats!

MaskerHollowKnight

You won’t realize, how helpful this charm is until you go through colloseum of fools and godhome.

lisa

THATS ALL? I RATHER HAVE MY KID WITH ME, NAHHH, HE SAVED ME AT PANTHEON 3

ThatDerpJerk

I have some disagreements with the table at (1:24). Masks per notch is not the most useful number here. When I'm looking at making a survivability build, the numbers I look at are:
(a) Expected number of hits I can survive between healing opportunities (high is good).
(b) Expected time between healing opportunities (low is good).
(c) Expected additional hits I can survive per healing opportunity, averaged over multiple healing opportunities (high is good).
These numbers don't mention masks, because against enemies that deal more than one mask of damage, (a) and (c) can be different from number of masks.
Against 1 damage, (a) = masks - 1.
Against 2 damage, (a) = ceiling(masks/2) - 1.
Against 3 damage, (a) = ceiling(masks/3) - 1. Relevant for Hidden Dreams bosses.
Against 4 damage, (a) = ceiling(masks/4) - 1. Note that here 11 masks and 9 masks have the same (a) = 2, so Heart doesn't make as much sense anymore.
Against 5 damage, (a) = ceiling(masks/5) - 1. Here 11 masks (a) = 2 but at 9 masks (a) = 1, so here Heart gets back in the game!
Against 6, 7, and 8 damage, (a) = 1 whether I have Heart equipped or not, so Heart goes back to not making much sense here.

Carefree Melody kind of acts as a multiplier for both (a) and (c). The way I'd thought about it until now, I'd taken the average block chance of ~22.46%, assumed the expected number of hits half-inclusive-between blocks was (1/0.2246) = 4.452, and set the multiplier at 4.452 / (4.452 - 1) = 1.29. At 9 masks against 1 damage, (a) would go from 8 to 10.32 which is better than Heart. At 11 masks against 1 damage, (a) would go from 10 to 12.9. However, given what the table at (0:36) says, I might have been wrong about some of that. I haven't done the math on those new numbers yet, but I have a feeling Carefree Melody could end up even better than my previous numbers say?

AlexKnauth

I wanted to make carefree melody a homebrew artifact for my campaign. They get +1 AC whenever an attack roll against them hits, and they lose all of carefree melody’s bonus AC when an attack roll against them misses. I just wanted to double check

lancelee

Good to know it won't be helping me get that goddam flower across the map, thanks!

Owen-kijk

What’ll u do when u finish the series? Maybe a tier list?

rgnrk

Carefree Melody feels really overpowered on extra-damage bosses. I've been using it for Zote and it seems to trigger every other time I get hit.

scottydo

Hi there, great video! One question, though, what were the calculations for the cumulative chance? Because for 2 hits, i got the cumulative chance of 18.2%, rather than 18.6%, which was displayed in the chart in the video

As i understand, the formula would be (probability of taking a 2nd hit) × (probability of dodging after taking the 2nd hit) = (89/99) × (20/99) ≈ 0.181614 ≈ 18.2%

Every other cumulative chance i calculated matched the ones in the chart, so i was just wondering, maybe i went wrong somewhere :P
Thanks in advance

nikiy

WAIT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET EVERY CHARM IF I GET RID OF ONE?

BobaEclipse

Wait a moment ! Carefree melody does not give you additional masks . Right ?

Roland_Volpahart

How do I get the Grim child charm back? Please tell me!😥 Please Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please

GiantParadoxQ