'HOBBY TOURISTS' Don't Exist in Wargaming

You may have heard someone called a 'hobby tourist' - you may have been called one yourself. The truth is: hobby tourists don't really exist.

[tomtheconqerur]

"Hobby tourists are just a conspiracy!"
*Proceed to say things that validate the conspiracy*

[sternencolonel]

"The only thing they listen to is sales" well that did work out well for the StarWars Brand, didnt it ?

[CantusTropus]

The fun thing is, if you have the extension that re-enables dislikes on Youtube, you can see that this video is about 51% dislikes...

[HacksawsHobbyBunker]

I think there is a certain irony in calling out those who use the term "Hobby Tourist" by declaring them to be "Conspiracy Theorist" - the original pejorative term used to shut down anyone whose argument you disagree with. Just sayin'.

[norbertfistinger]

The whole topic went straight over your head mate...

[redhairjoe]

is this one of those "It doesnt exist" moments where someone says "Its not happening", gets shown its happening and then says "ok, it happens but its not a problem"? Because that's what this sounds like.

[blTb_DOPY-CMEPTb_CKAKJIY]

*The term HOBBY LOCUST is better than HOBBY TOURISTS, by the way.* 😅😅

[NewbieDice]

"Games workshop don't listen to the opinions of paying customers" 😂 got me!

[TheMadYetti]

good, good, another drone to preach the "remade for modern audience"

[UltraNerdyGamer]

You’re taking the term “tourist” too literally here.
The pejorative term “hobby tourist” comes from the pejorative use of tourist, not the actual definition.
To locals, tourists are often loud, obnoxious, rude, and lack a deeper understanding or investment of wherever they’re visiting. Mostly because they don’t live there. It’s just a fun place to be for a week or so. Even in places where tourism is a big part of the economy, locals will have a mixed relationship with tourists.

[dr.squirrels]

While I’ve pretty much never heard the term “tourist” used in a good faith argument I can at least understand the sentiment.

If someone is brand new to an area, them immediately criticizing everything or demanding changes without taking any time to understand the area and community is a good way to ruffle feathers.

[WeOnlyEatSoup]

Hobby tourists may not be the term I would use at first, but they definitely exist! People love to attempt to ruin the things you love with their politics and agendas having never even stepped foot into the hobby space. You can't deny reality. The demand for female space Marines comes to mind.

[bewawolf]

"Tourists are a conspiracy theory"

Also

"Here is my strawman of what the other people mean to prove it is a conspiracy theory. it doesn't matter I didn't present any of their arguements in good faith, as my strawman is what I care about."

Video was entirely a waste of time. If you can't comprehend opposing views so rely strawmanning instead of steelmanning to come to the conclusion of "The phenomenon that thousands of people complain about clearly just doesn't exist", you don't have the mental maturity to handle topics like this. One can't even bother arguing against your points as all of your arguements are against positions which people don't even hold.

[ryanglessner]

In my opinion, I would call someone a "Hobby Tourist" if they don't hobby or support the hobby but want to inject their "values" into the industry/hobby space.

[Dennis]

Sorry but i have a different opinion on that. An ill informed person who doesn't know the lore or the world should not complain and dictate how the faction i have grown to like is supposed to be when he or she just opened the damn book. Calling these people out and antagonizing them is effectively a healthy immune response.

[gamesburger-ik]

It is the blind willingness to not try to understand others point of view that is interesting in this video. To say it "doesn't exist" shows a high level of ignorance, gas Lighting almost. it is a real thing. People will flock to "popular" franchises and then try to change them to fit their sensibilities rather than let the hobby give them something. It happens all the time.

[gogo]

tourism in most places is destructive and harmful to the culture and setting because most tourists dont care for it and expect everything to cater to them, same applies to hobby tourists, it's pretty easy to understand when you have even the smallest a degree of intellectual honesty

[DeusMachina]

I first started playing D&D in 1980, first played WFB with 3rd edition, Rogue Trader veteran of 1987-8, never stopped following the hobby. I'm what you call a Hobby historian at this point 😂 Though admittedly I'm not a fan of any of the current GW games except for Necromunda, everything else is OldHammer or something else at this point because the mystique, humor and dankness of the Warhammer settings has been watered down on GWs quest for the magical casual customer base that drives their profits these days

[artfrombelow]

I always figured the word tourist referred not to how long youve been in the hobby but the way yoi act and revere the setting. Like an actual tourist that litters on landmarks and has no regard for the place. 'Tourist' is probably a bad word for it but it just stuck.

[DanSummers-ir]

I agree with the fundamentals of the discussion, but I have to disagree with the position the large corporations are solely motivated by sales and don't listen to outside "voices". The positions/consequences for large corporations such as Anheuser-Busch, Tractor Supply Company, John Deere, and Disney does indicate that corporations are not immune from making decisions based upon their perception of societal trends