Deltarune (Chapter 2) with a side of salt

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[cheesewizard]

Scott: “I don’t get why people hate Berdly so much.”
Also Scott: “My favorite part of Chapter 2 was killing Berdly.”

[cosmicspacething]

Tbh I think Queen was supposed to be more like a “Saturday morning cartoon” villain than an actual threat.

[RioManegos]

I think the fact that Toriel is lying about why she was checking the car is interesting. If you check on her while she bakes, you see Susie catching her eating sugar out of the bag, but her excuse for checking the car is that she forgot the sugar (that she was already eating) in the car.

[danhatter]

I honestly love how post-snowgrave Berdly not waking up is portrayed, it leaves so much to be questioned. On one hand, he doesn’t turn to dust like monsters should, but on the other, the game specifically avoids saying he’s sleeping. It’s so chilling.

[karuko]

would freaking love it if toby just constantly made Scott’s predictions canon just for the hell of it

[TheSufferG]

6:18 I just want to say if you hit a gas line that easily with just a kitchen knife, I think your house may have some problems.

[shiny]

Berdly is underrated, he gets a banger theme, goes through character growth, and apparently adapted *really* fast to the Dark World

[ChristopherMoom]

Absolutely insane how Toby Fox looked into the future and relied on the community to dunk on Berdly for no reason at all, in order to fully flesh out Berdly being an awkward gamer, Toby really is a good writer

In all seriousness, this was a pretty good video! I think Snowgrave is a very, VERY interesting part of DeltaRune, and I wonder what Toby's gonna do with it in future Chapters

Also, yeah, Spamton is a really great character, it's funny how Toby tweeted that he wasn't sure if people would even like him

[danielj]

I personally disagree that Noelle has only one character trait in the normal route. The game tells us a lot about her relationship with Kris and how her family life is pretty f*cking broken.

[fraudulein]

I would argue that the baddie not feeling like a threat and the whole chapter feeling like nothing was at stake was deliberate, because most of the characters see the whole thing as more just a fun little adventure, and as at they point out at the end, Queen literally doesn't know what she's doing and just thought it'd be a Good Idea, not even being aware that she'd endanger the whole world and so on (most of the main cast having actually forgotten about that little detail by then as well)

[kingofthe_humanz]

Berdly is one of us. A gamer… Thats why everyone hates him, hes a reflection of us

[DiamondAppendixVODs]

"The big bad just follows you around and makes jokes and doesn't feel like a threat"
I mean, that's how pretty much every undertale character works

[nerdynobody]

imma be honest that one scene where spamton falls and just dies really hits, like no fanfare, no explosions, no final scream of terror, he's just gone and like that really made me feel some sort of emotion that i don't know what to call

[thomasoreilly]

Everyone talking about Berdly's character growth and how he's underrated, but you know who's really underappreciated?
The origonal Starwalker, that's who. He has a full on character arc, goes from being pissed off at everything, to joining the team just because other people are.
But THEN, he joins the party voluntarily at the carvrnival place, even if it's for one room, which shows that he's stopped being pissed at everything.
Then it all comes together when he lends the power of Starwalker to the Thrash Machine at the end of the normal route.
Now THAT's a character.

[MythicMachina]

Honestly, I really do like Berdly. He's the kind of character that I roll my eyes at, but I always do it with a smile. I know that he has a little bit of character development, but it didn't feel like it changed much. I really do hope he returns in future chapters and we can see how he develops.

[birdthebird]

I’d say he’s wrong about Noelle’s character just being “hungy for Barney” in the normal route, given her arc was always about moving past the engrained idea of learned helplessness she had. It’s just in the snow grave route, she moves past it in a much darker way.

[zteck]

I feel like Kris isn't trying to get rid of the player, but is actually the one who summons them there. Catti says something about them studying the dark arts together, so it's likely Kris summoned you rather than you just showing up in them one morning. However, after the fight with Spamtom, Kris realizes that if they cuts ties to the player completely, they might just drop dead, whereas they just seem half-dead when they remove your controls.

[embrefrosste]

Okay but like is nobody going to talk about how Noelle has an older sister named December Holiday who has been missing and presumed dead for years? And how Noelle has been struggling with learned helplessness ever since?

[Yuti]

Yeah, I get what you mean about Jevil but I feel like he was Toby entering into this whole optional secret boss thing
While Jevil was a great character… he was great for the very short time that we got to see him
Spamton fixes that a lot by actually being integral to the main story in a way, sure he’s not a big character but he has much more screen time and you’ll always see him in the main story even if you just speedrun right to the ending
It does make sense why there isn’t really anything to Jevil in Chapter 2 specifically but that does make it feel like he got the short end of the stick
I at least hope that Toby sticks to how he treats secret bosses with how he treated Spamton and it does seem like there’ll be quite a bit to the next one with the whole Shadow Mantle thing
At the very least, I would’ve liked it if maybe, when Kris was alone in the City, Jevil could speak to Kris when you interact with things if he’s in your inventory, since his armor or weapon technically IS him
Plus, that concept can lead to some fun interactions between the secret bosses in the future rather than just having them be only in their respective chapter while still keeping them as a background element to avoid disrupting the main story

[moxstoleyoursocks]

The whole shtick with deltarune is that your choices don’t matter because everything is foretold in the prophecy.

The prophecy tells about Kris, Susie, and Ralsei.

Not about anyone else.

*Especially not Noelle and Berdly.*

Sure, you may not be able to change how _Kris’_ story ends because of the prophecy, but you can influence how the others are affected.