Transgender Identity & Washrooms - Matt Dillahunty vs Dinesh D'Souza

Transgender Identity & Washrooms - Matt Dillahunty vs Dinesh D'Souza

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This clip is from the Livestream of the Matt Dillahunty vs Dinesh D'Souza discussion that occurred in New York City on March 1st 2020.

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[daviepadilla]

I thought bathroom were segregated by sex, not gender... sex and gender were synonymous before but now they have separated it except when they want to win a point.

[paulgreen]

I am used to seeing Matt on the atheist experience and have always admired his sticking to verifiable facts and asking for evidence.. On seeing him here talking about men as being women I was shocked, disappointed and completely baffled. Dinesh firmly and calmly wiped the floor with him. On one hand Matt admits that gender is a social construct, which means that there is no fixed way that men or women have to behave to still remain a man or woman. Then he goes on to say that a man can feel or identify as a woman, and so, would need to change gender. But why bother if gender is so fluid and can be constructed in any way you like? But in any case this does not change a person’s sex which except in very few cases which we are not discussing here, does not change. So a person’s gender should never be the deciding factor for which facilities that person uses, but sex should. If certain facilities are made for women, for their privacy and protection, they are made for women and not men who want to be, or believe themselves to be, women. It seems that these men have actually no concern at all for the well-being of women, only those men who call themselves women. I would love to see this new Matt as a caller on the old Matt’s atheist experience show.

Old Matt: So we now have a caller who is convinced he is a woman. Tell me what evidence do you have for this belief?
Woke Matt caller: Well, I feel just like a woman, and feel like a woman feels.
Old Matt: And how do you know how a woman feels? And how does a woman feel?
Woke Matt caller: Well, for me it’s feeling girly. I love cooking and sometimes knit, and I hate mending cars. I love wearing make-up.
Old Matt: And you think that makes you a woman? Do all women like these things? Why can’t you be a man who does these things? And you do realize that being a man or woman is a sex thing and not a gender choice?
Woke Matt caller: You’re just a bigot. I have chosen to change my gender, so now my sex is changed as well. I am a woman.
Old Matt: What evidence do you have for this?
Woke Matt caller: Well as I said, I feel like a woman, and my friends are very nice to me and call me a woman as well.
Old Matt: Go read any science book and call me back.

[Cubemusic]

Can't believe how big this topic has become. Although interesting to watch debates, it's extremely polarized and somewhat dangerous to even utter an opinion in either direction.

[mushroomkaiyoti]

you often hear the mantra that trans women are women but you never hear it as much when it comes to trans men are men… they don’t even discuss how any of this affects us or how we are being erased

[Bajantaku]

Matt has backed science so hard for so long… I seriously thought that he cared about truth. A question I think is profound that I heard from Matt was “do you care if what you believe in is true or not?” And now I’ve gotta ask him the same thing. Come on Matt.

[TigerDragonStorm]

It’s like he has no concern about women’s feelings who are shouting all over the internet that they don’t feel comfortable with T in their bathrooms and safe places. It’s a complex issue, but don’t ignore the women who are literally saying they don’t feel safe Matt 🙏🏾

[dimit]

its amazing that i have watched videos of Matt Dillahunty before and everything he says is 100% true and logic.He have debated with a lot of educated people and always was a winner at least in my eyes. And now because he does not want to make his trans friends sad he makes logical mistakes and says things one would not expect of him.

[astralcowboy]

Matt found a new religion to believe in. It’s cute to see him make claims more batshit crazy than anything Sye Ten Bruggencate could come up with.

[willterryart]

Watching Dillahunty try to make an argument here reminds me of my teenagers struggling to argue against common sense family rules.

[johnnycastellanetta]

If a man wants to dress up and claim he is a woman, that's up to him. It is not up to trans people whether everyone else accepts that claim. I'm not sure how a guy that spends a lot of time using this same logical arrangement against religion can't see this. At the end of the day, a false claim is a false claim.
That doesn't mean I hate trans people or don't respect their right to live as they see fit.

[cnault]

We don't have gender specific washrooms in airplanes. Make all public or restaurant washrooms single person rooms & don't specify gender.

[alexanderwilliamson]

"Why does it matter" the ultimate sign of a losing argument.

[LanceDobson]

I agree with Matt on so many points, but i just have no idea how he has landed on these conclusions.

[GlennMariano]

The argument was lost when Matt tried to reframe the sports model. Even if one were to divide it by weight class, men would dominate such sports. It's a basic fact, Matt lost this one.

[johnny]

Sex-segregated bathrooms came about in the last century when women joined the workforce. The worry was that biological men where physically more powerful and dominant over women and that women needed a separate bathroom for safety. It was all about biology. Segregating by self-concept instead of biology defeats the whole purpose. Keep them the way they are, add a unisex bathroom, or get rid of sex-segregated bathrooms altogether.

[LiLMARSLI]

It's very interesting to see a man like Matt coming up with arguments non-scientifically and non-skeptic. It looks like he's just there because Dinesh is a religious person, and he must be against anything religious people believe/support.

[AdamKlownzinger]

I am a Matt fan, btw. Staunchly atheist, dont particularly like Dinesh, find him pugnacious at times. That said, wow, Matt did very badly.

Matt doesn’t seem to be particularly fond of Title IX then? Putting all these different sports in “Tier A, B, C or D” will inevitably in most sports result in men composing 95+% of all the Tier A high level championship competition while 95+% of women will be made outright lessers, competing for D2, D3 level hardware and reaping all the benefits, or rather lack thereof that people who compete at those schools get; lack of serious recognition, lack of funding, etc.

“The best thing you can do regardless of belief is affirm somebody’s gender identity” that’s fine. I don’t care at all. Seriously, not one bit. Live your life. The question is not, “What makes society better for just trans people?” It’s, “What makes society better?” Whether you affirm somebody’s gender identity or merely acknowledge it and respect their belief of it without accepting it (my position), you can do these things while also saying, “Hey, maybe people with penises shouldn’t be in locker rooms or bathrooms with little girls, ” or, “Hey, maybe it’s a good thing that men and women are given an equal playing field rather than saddling women to second class status in athletics where it is obvious purely due to physiological differences that this would happen, and not everything must necessarily be a pure meritocracy, especially if I am a left winger who probably complains about meritocracy in other instances like on affirmative action (which is apparently a realm where its acceptable to acknowledge that any individual of a given, in this case racial, identity could do anything another individual of a different identity could do, yet at the same time acknowledging that taking these identity groups as a whole you will see that some perform noticeably worse than others in a given field and thus maybe we should do something about it).”

Matt is incredible in discussing religious issues. He as most leftists of his ilk are just straight up incompetent when discussing political issues.

[nyoreachoja]

I respect Matt's views on religion and philosophy but he's absolutely going with his emotions here and pandering to his trans friends. So desperate not to offend them that he says bathrooms are just for peeing and pooping and we shouldn't make a fuss about it. Nah Matt, nahh. I totally agree with Dinesh here.

[Useruflkju]

Wow. This is the first time I have heard Matt D go into an area where he was at a disadvantage.

[Preston-cpjt]

Jesus Christ... Matt dillahunty has always been somewhat of a hero to me when it came to atheism... Back in the day he was one of the most rational and logical debaters I'd ever seen, but he's way off base here...