Final Fantasy 4 - How OVERPOWERED! Can You Get BEFORE Paladin Cecil

How overpowered can you get in Final fantasy 4 before all your effort gets wasted because of level resets and party members leaving? lets find out shall we!

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[JasonNCSU]

Now we need a follow-up where Paladin Cecil reaches level 99 with max HP before leaving Mt Ordeals.

[Arbron]

Characters aren't reset upon rejoining. They actually gain experience after they've joined at least once and left, which is why Tellah came back at 99.

[Theonewhoisinfinite]

Final Fantasy IV Is my favorite FF of all time, and one of my top five games of all time too! Seeing those kinds of numbers as Cecil is a dark knight is just ridiculous, bravo for putting in all the time and effort!

[SirJoelsuf]

6:09

That's a mechanic used to make sure that when players rejoin, they aren't dozens of levels behind your current players. Speedrunners of FFIV use it to make sure that Kain and Rosa have certain levels/abilities to progress.

[cyberbullyssb]

....madness. I remember feeling really ripped off when I first played this game and Cecil was reset after all my grinding. Didn't see it coming, made me set that game down for a while. You're a legend.

[AtariSwitch]

After level 70, when a character levels up, the game chooses randomly from a set of possible stat upgrades. I can tell from Palom's stats he got several of the +3 Strength, Intellect. Strength is relatively useless for him and it looks like Intellect is maxed, so those points were wasted. To truly get the strongest you could be, you'd need to reset and re-level until you get a more useful one like +2 Agility, Intellect, Spirit or +1 to All.
Every character has their own set of possible upgrades, so for each you'd have to plan out how many of which upgrade you need to get as close to maxed as you can. This also means you need to get Tellah to 99 before he leaves so you can control his stat growth.

[coreydopson]

Glad youre back to focusing on this series. I know it takes a lot of time and effort and isnt super sustainable for output but i really love them. Just need the algorithm to put you in front of people

[lehmentippie]

I can only imagine the conversation that occurs when Tellah sees a 7 year old casting Meteor.

[rededge]

Fun fact. Depending on the version of the game is depending on if the party members you get back will increase in levels :) . SNES ff2 members will increase. But some of the ff4 versions later released to not ! I have done the grind to KO Kain in your duel.

[djrakman]

You do these challenges so we dont have to. You tell us its a waste of time, we watch the video even more. Thats a smart tactic. Keep us hooked, keep us hungry for more. Good lad.

[dlarsh]

Didn't cap Kain's level before Mist Dragon, gotta do it all over again lol. In all seriousness, though, this is crazy dedication, well done.

[ritterbrown]

I always love how these videos are told in a guide format while he's simultaneously telling you not to do this

[Taikomo]

If you went to the trouble of grinding Edward, a character that will never rejoin the party for the rest of the game, to 99, shouldn't you have done the same for Kain, who will rejoin later?

[jasonfowler]

Thank you for documenting this total madness!

I played so much of this as a kid. I would level up at the beginning so Kain would be even stronger when he returns to the party. The pixel remaster is so good.

[youarenotrede]

In the original FF II when I was a kid I figured out you could go north of Mt. Ordeals you had the higher-level mobs that gave a ton of XP, and they weren't too strong for Cecil if he had the Black armor and sword that would insta-kill enemies (I think it was called Death in later versions?). So I would skip Mysidia, grind with Cecil, go back to get the twins, level them up, get Cecil his Paladin, and then go back and grind some more, and later Kain, Rosa, and Rydia's levels would match. But this is a whole other level lol.

[GaretStrife]

FF4 was my first Final Fantasy, back on the PS1 when it was released alongside FF5 as the Anthology Collection. Back then, I didn't have a clue that the Kain fight in Fabul was scripted and unwinnable. So, I levelled Cecil against oh so many Goblins. It was always "one more level", but no matter how long I bashed my head against the wall, Kain refused to be beaten. When I finally bit the bullet and continued, Cecil became a Paladin. Back to level 1. I could have snapped the disc in half.

[carltaylor]

This dude is an absolute BEAST. The will power and dedication this takes is out of this world. Amazing man, simply astonishing.

[lmelior]

You madlad. The only way I'd do something like this is if I had some sort of auto-input for grinding, and even then I'd only beef up the final party members. This is just crazy!

[TheHarunate]

8:22
That fortunately isn't the case for the GBA and PSP releases (FFIV Advance & FFIV Complete Collection, respectively). In these two versions, all characters who originally never rejoined your party (except for the old mages) will become playable again once you gain access to the final dungeon, you can switch them in and out whenever you want. There's also a new, optional dungeon at Mt.Ordreals that contains new, more up-to-date gears for these characters. So, I guess the grind is less pointless if you're playing any of these two versions of FFIV.

[arumea]

This one feels special compared to the other challenges since all this work simply poofs when he becomes a Paladin so you can even continue the game as normal after. well I guess your party members would be changed but most of the people you have at the time of becoming a Paladin you don't have anymore or have an altered version.