The WORST Advice on AJATT (All Japanese All the Time)

0:00 Intro

1:42 Worst advice #1

4:21 Worst advice #2

6:09 Other common criticisms

7:16 On early output and AJATT

7:50 Conclusion

[mr.sushi]

I have an idea. Everyone try whatever works for them and everyone don’t give up. Only advice you need, I hate how people gloat about how long it takes them in the language learning community. It’s not a race

[MadameSomnambule]

The comprehension level is why I kinda like Japanese shows for young children. The language is simplified for the target age demographic and kinda makes listening practice a bit less overwhelming. It's also why I like reading raw shounen manga because of its useage of slightly simplified language and furigana, which helps tremendously for looking up unfamiliar words with keyboard input. I was into a slice of life shounen series from the 70s called Otoko Oidon, since I was already into Leiji Matsumoto's more famous Captain Harlock series. Ended up picking up new words nicely reading through it.

[davidchung]

3:08 THIS!
children don't actively listen to adult-level conversation
first, their parents speak to them in baby-speak
later, their caretakers and teachers speak in artificially clear and simple language
and of course a major source of input is their peers, who generally don't speak at adult speeds
ajatt approach is like trying to get over a wall by climbing instead of finding something to step on

[hitsujihonyaku]

there are not very many youtube channels making videos about ajatt recently. thank you

[serendipity]

Great video. To me it is the monolingual transition that never made sense. You will not fully grasp the meaning of the word by scrolling through the definitions that you can barely read as a beginner/lower intermediate learner. Even if you could, it is definitely not worth the time and effort.

[Shibbyify]

This is why I follow Refold. It's an evolution from AJATT's flaws.

[oscarchavezart]

I started AJATT in 2018, did those 2 things, and they did not help that much. Especially sleeping with anime audio, my sleep was not the best. One day at work I got this pain and what felt like a plug in my right ear from listening all the time to Japanese audio. It lasted for maybe some 20 minutes, and then I could hear again normally. that was when I started questioning the method. Later in 2020, I just ran out of motivation, and have started getting motivated again to pick up the language. This time I will do it a bit different, and those are: 1.Taking rest, taking days off for the mind to de-clutter, go and live my life, socialize, have fun while at events, not be a hermit and never have anyone know that I exist. No, gotta live life.
2. Not feel bad or angry that I have stopped because I still understand the kanji I know, can still write the kanji I know, and can still make out simple sentences. This is from stopping in late 2020 until now, there are some things I do come across I forgot, but I pick them up again super fast. 3. Keeping a positive attitude with a positive vision that I can achieve what I seek to achieve with the language. 4. Having a tribe, a group, a community. That was one key aspect that had me going and going back in the days. Without a group that supports you, it can be and will be hard. And last, 5. doing it for me. That was one main reason why I started, for me, it never was for a girl, like I was asked one time, never. Because if that external motivation is no longer around, that internal motivation may go away.

[marck_]

The "early output will ruin your ability" thing originates from antimoon

[kapitanbuggy]

I found this the easiest way to make input comprehensible as a beginner:

Pick a show you wanna watch. Watch one episode with your native language subs, then watch the same episode a second time without them. Just go through the whole show like this.

This helps you pick up common words and phrases very quickly as a beginner.

[elel]

I followed AJATT and it helped me to learn Japanese. I don’t follow it as much anymore since I’ve streamlined my method. But it is still a good foundation.

[exploringthedepths]

i remeber reqading the ajatt site at the start and completely taking the advice of listening all the time. that was a really bad idea. not only did do nothing. it was stressful and gave me bad memories towards japanese. BUT actually after 3 years, i picked it up a few months ago. and its actually made a huge diffrence. i noticed and understood words from just walking and studying that i heard before.

i even listened while i slept, personally i wasent bothered at all by it. i aignt gonna lie, sleep listening actually does work. you're brain notices the langauge when your sleeping. i noticed a diffrence when i slept with Japanese audio and slept with nothing. idk if you improve by that tho.

i would say exponentionally increasing the immersion rate is the most comfortable and effective way to do ajatt. also never touching passive immersion until at least knowing how to separate words

[philipdavis]

CIJapanese is a great example of comprehensive input for Japanese beginners.

[Ohrami]

7:17 AJATT and its future progeny were not the originators of avoiding early output. This idea has been around as early as 1984, with the AUA Language Center in Thailand, when J. Marvin Brown determined that people who spoke a second language earlier consistently had significantly worse results than people who did not. He advocates a natural learning method called ALG, which DreamingSpanish, who you recommended the content of in this video, also recommends.

[exartic._]

I love japanese and i want to do ajatt i really do but im also a HUUUUGE music addict.
As a manga artist i needz me my tunes

[ZoeXspecturm]

Ima watch crayon shin chan and read yotsubato 🐶

[WilkinsMichael]

Each generation thinks they invented the wheel but they haven't. Immersion has been a well known language learning method since well before Kazumoto was a gleam in his daddy's eye. When I was learning languages in the 80s EVERYONE said immersion is the best way, everyone. We still had textbooks etc but immersion was thought to be the true way to become fluent. We had huge language labs full of content to immerse ourselves if we couldn't go overseas. And the idea predates the 80's for sure, we can read about how old time polyglots learned. And really how do you think all the multilingual people in the past several thousands of years learned? They had nothing, they immersed, that's it. Love AJATT but he didn't invent immersion and he only popularized it with a certain set of people, the idea has existed for a long time.