Shogun (2024) │ 'Wretched Land' scene │ Episode 1 Ending

give me goosebumps

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[Daviddd]

This gives the good old Assassin’s Creed opening vibe, god I miss those days….

[toratora]

Viewers seem to be debating whether European civilization or Asian civilization is better. He just wants to use sarcasm to show how big the world is to those who think they are number one.

[mnk]

I need more Rodriguez, dude was a real one.

[hfar_in_the_sky]

"I won't die in this wretched land!"

He's going to spend the rest of his days in Japan whether he wants to or not, isn't he?

[j.dunlop]

Read Shogun almost 50 yrs ago, didn't come to realize it was absolutely based on an truly extraordinary real man, till decades later! His intelligence and adaptability changed Japan like few other foreigners! (Wikipedia, covers much of his life, and choices!)

[elxaime]

"Every Japanese man has three hearts. One in his mouth for the world to know. Another in his chest, just for his friends. And a secret heart, buried deep where no one can find it, for his Waifu."

[id]

"And who knows, maybe-maybe fate brought you here for a reason" - I don't really believe in fate or karma, but if you've read about the real Anjin, one has to wonder if him setting foot in Japan was indeed karma at work. William was among the very few survivors on his ship, he was the one with the exact knowledge Tokugawa needed at that exact time, who himself actually had wisdom and foresight to recognize it, and William had the right type of character and enought curiosity to learn and adopt Japanese language and way of life and make it his new home, completely altering the course of Japanese history. Both Tokugawa and Anjin were one in a million kind of people and for some reason their roads crossed. Might be that karma brought them together because they were destined to meet, become friends and work together to achieve great things.

[brightsuperstition]

Rodrigues isn't saying Japan is better than Europe. The context of this scene (to remind all the butthurt critics here, assuming they even watched the episode *at all*) is that Blackthorne came into Japan with a view of it as a brutish, backwards and primitive country. Throughout the episode, Blackthorne refers to Japan as a "dark land". What Rodrigues is trying to tell Blackthorne by beckoning him to go outside and see Osaka Harbor is that it's not the primitive country he's been led to believe it is. The reason why Rodrigues chastises Blackthorne is because the latter (like most Europeans at the time, and even some to this day, if some of the hilariously ignorant, borderline racist and Eurocentric comments here are to be believed) mistakenly thinks of Europe as the only place with any real civilization that isn't savage and barbaric.

[Mogumike]

I see people here discussing the state of Japan back then, and if it was worthy of this praise, but I do not think that's the point of this scene. It's not about Japan, but about people like Rodrigues.

For a spaniard like him, that probably spent a good part of his life being dragged into the constant european conflict, Japan likely represented a way out. A society secluded and alien, unlike any other he knew. He is basically an early japanophile, a barbarian seeking escapism from his previous life. And it also shows that he is a man of conviction, unlike other europeans in Japan that are fuelled mostly by greed, something that Blackthorne makes use of at the climax of the third episode.

[grendizer]

this scene is endless ... a masterpiece

[flamingbabygames]

Was initially so pissed at Rodriguez for giving him up, but it makes sense with him torching settlements which I'd assume infludes slaughtering innocents.

And in the end, he doesnt sink him to repay him for saving him, so it all works out

[viyunia]

this tv show is a masterpiece. it gives you a charge of emotions that you don't usually experience - even from the first minutes of the first episode..

[jeffreyjackson]

I love the spaciousness of their rooms. Their example is exactly why residence is the same. Love it.

[Bayard]

The thing is... the European view of superiority had nothing to do with actual degree of civilization, or size of cities, it was a lot of greed involved. This is what pushed these sailors or conquistadors so far. Seeing the beauty and size of Tenochtitlan did not stop Cortes from pillaging it.

[calwells]

Brilliant speech, bolstered extremely well by the musical score, editing, etc. What a crazy great atmosphere they achieved!

[Kaplan]

This is one of my favourite scenes from the show. The end scene perfectly juxtaposes the English Pilots assumption of the Japanese being some simpleton and the outro showing in their own way the Japanese were extremely sophisticated people with a very complex but alien society.

[davecrupel]

The 3 heart thing is absolutely true.

1 I "save face" with.
1 I save for those i trust most.
And 1 i keep for myself and a very _very_ select few.

[jakewolf]

Still relevant today, you take one look at any major city in Japan (Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto etc.) and then compare it to any city in US, and you see a big difference.

[davidbroski]

This scene alone put a huge smile on my face. I knew it was going to be incredible.

[chad]

When this scene came up, i knew we'd be watching something special