Headphone jack needs to be gone on EVERYTHING

It did its time, now it's over...

[alossson]

if you're and audio pro you're using an external dac/amp, therefore they don't need a headphone jack on any device

[okanekelan]

Apple removed the headphone jack on the iPhone because it was over 100 years old yet they keep the telephone function which is even older.

[benavenlino]

I can't live without my earphone jack

[danielaalfs]

So why don't they make the lighting port on the iPhone into a USB c port ?

[MosoKaiser]

Man, do more research and less drinking that Apple marketing team BS koolaid they're pouring down your throat.

1) A headphone jack doesn't transfer "kilobits" - it's analog.

2) A headphone jack (be it 3.5mm or 1/4") has WAY more bandwidth than needed for transferring analog audio signals.

3) The 1/4" plug is used on pro gear because it's much more robust than the 3.5mm plug. That's it, no other difference.

4) FLAC file playback doesn't need USB C or lightning.

5) You don't want to listen to headphones pushing more power than the headphone jack can support. Really. You don't.
If your Macbook can't push your headphones loud enough, it's the fault of the weak ass headphone out section of the MB, not the headphone jack's.

[jyjaxon]

Why is he comparing data rates of a digital connector and an analog connector? Also, 3.5mm jacks work just as well as 1/4 inch jacks; 1/4 inch is just used for physical durability.

[zainabshaban]

Having a head phone jack doesn't prevent you from being completely wireless if you want to. It just offers you a second option that is less of a hassle and keeps you from having to remember to charge wireless headphones when you want to listen music.

[spectrHz]

Interesting to see people defending a mega corporations' obvious profit motives...
First off... you clearly know nothing about electronics, the headphone, or TRS (tip ring sleeve) jack is an analog connector, no "kilobits of data." Literally just line voltages from a DAC or analog AC voltage. There is no limit to the power you can squeeze through a TRS jack except the current limits of the copper conductor, which is present in all cables. The line connector can easily push 250 ohm drivers directly from an amplifier, It is fundamentally different than a pair of headphones that use USB or lightning. Those headphones must have an internal DAC or digital to analog converter, because at the end of those wires is a magnet and a coil of wire that push air in your ears, and fundamentally have to have an analog signal due to how speakers work. Digital signals are useless to anything other than other digital devices. A usb-c/firewire adapter is literally just moving the dac to the adapter, if you are going to go to the effort of including the adapter, why not just include it in the fucking phone?!

While I understand the points made in this video, I still think it's important to keep the ol' TRS jack, mostly because it's a robust and standardized connector. I repair electronics, and 9 times out of ten, even on 50 year old equipment, TRS jacks don't break. I mean, it became a standard for a reason.
And comparing cd/firewire and usb? really? with the exception of usb, none of those were as standardised as TRS. EVERY audio device had TRS, and USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0 and 1.0, meaning you can still plug you 15 year old keyboard into a modern computer with a faster better connector and it still works. DVD rom and blu ray drives can still read CDs. This is much different than the complete elimination of an entire audio subsystem and connector, now you CANT use your old devices with TRS jacks, They didn't make the connector better, they just fucking' nuked it man. This is just getting rid of something for the sake of charging more money and putting more perfectly functional shit in the landfill. If we humans keep up this behavior of throwing shit out "because it's time to upgrade" we won't be landing on mars at all. It's my fucking job to keep the shit people like you throw away out of landfills, I repair old electronics and give them a new life, and the more obscure these proprietary connectors get and proprietary software gets, the less of a chance there is for me to fix it. Thought experiment, where do your steam games go if Valve closes down? Where is jellycar in the appstore? It's this kind of forced obsolescence that throws years of peoples work down the drain. I can garauntee you that no engineer at apple thought it was a good idea to remove the TRS jack, that, was purely bureaucratic my friend.

[JezdziecBezNicka]

"Data transfer" argument when comparing digital signal to analog was priceless. You could write apple keynotes :)

[Conceptcreator]

While you are correct at some points, it isn't always that 1-way view you have here, it might not be about the quality for some people. But just a SIMPLE way of using set headphones, 1. Bluetooth you MUST charge. If you forget it? you have no music...
2. Charging and listening at the same time... 3 Buying a Bluetooth headset that is about the same quality as a simple 3.5 mm jack is much more expensive. And 4 you can't charge and listen to music at the same time.

No matter how you explain it, Bluetooth is not as user-friendly as a headphone jack. now we can say, well you can use a dongle and still have a 3.5mm headphone jack, yes you can, but that comes with its own problem, And that is this tiny dongle you lose. At least I did 3 times over, and I am not alone in this.

This is why is HATE that companies are removing it. Many not doing it for saving space or water resistance, and we all know why Apple did it. They get paid more now because every headphone with the lightning cable now gives apple money because they own the rights, unlike the standard headphone jack.

But that same excuse doesn't work for any other company because they do not own the headphone jack port.

if I spend over 700 euro's on a product it better has the damn basics on it!

[davidmorrie]

fake news 1/4 inch jack doesn't transfer more power. they are used for durability.

[vendrineswtor]

I'm watching this video and charging my phone at the same time. Thanks headphone jack!!

[gloriousp_]

If all new phones aren’t going to have headphone jacks, I’ll never buy a new phone again.

[eliteagent]

If samsung removed it before apple tailosive tech would make fun of them

[grimpleton]

"I want wireless technology to evolve so I want to remove a universal piece of technology and negatively affect other people's enjoyment of a device."

What a selfish fucking argument.

[PhilHarrisTV]

I think you're mistaken when you go on about 'transferring data' through an audio cable. The 'data' (the audio file) has already been transferred from Digital format to analogue before it comes out the headphone jack. You are simply transferring a signal when using wired headphones

[bolttracks]

There is no data going through analog headphone out. It’s not digital, it’s simply analog audio - it’s just bottlenecked by the quality of the DAC

[skumbagsterlo]

the 1/4 inch (6.35 mm) jack is used in higher end equipment for it's increased durability over 1/8 inch (3.5 mm), not because of any ability to transfer higher quality audio.

[kanavkapoor]

If Apple truly cared about progress instead of profits, Lightning would be long-gone.

[keggerous]

3.5 jacks are SUPER durable compared to usb-c . . . they are easy and cheap to self repair too.