Stuart Hameroff: Anesthesia, Consciousness, Bohm and Penrose (EmQM17)

Stuart Hameroff (University of Arizona, Tucson, USA) about "Anesthesia, Consciousness, Bohm and Penrose" at the Emergent Quantum Mechanics 2017 (EmQM17) Symposium sponsored by the Fetzer Franklin Fund at the University of London (UK).

EmQM17 was the 4th International Symposium about Quantum Mechanics based on a "Deeper Level Theory".

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[periurban]

So great to see Stuart keeping up this good work. I'm pretty convinced that he and Penrose are on to something.

[Sean_Coyne]

My microtubules could not sync until I lowered the playback frequency to 0.75, then it blew me away. This is the first in depth explanation of this hypothesis I have come across and, like many others, am both deeply impressed and yet puzzled by the deafening silence from the wider science community.

[robertcoia]

Jack Tuszynski, PhD, recently conducted an experiment with a computational model of a microtubule. His team simulated shining a light into a microtubule, sort of like a photon sending an exciton through a plant structure. If the light lasted long enough before being emitted—a fraction of a second was enough—it would indicate quantum coherence.

Specifically, Tuszynski’s team simulated sending tryptophan fluorescence, or ultraviolet light photons that are not visible to the human eye, into microtubules. After conducting the experiment 22 times, Tuszynski reported that the excitations from the tryptophan created quantum reactions that lasted up to five nanoseconds. That is thousands of times longer than some had expected coherence to last in a microtubule. It’s also more than long enough to perform the biological functions required.

[squamish]

This theory has withstood endless attacks for 20 years, and it is the most testable and therefore most scientific theory of consciousness. You wouldn't know that from popular culture, as most physicists still loathe it, but it isn't going anywhere.

[jonl]

If you use your quantum brain to think about it...he makes alot of sense.

[negimemorandum]

Then how reincarnated person remember his past life; please note that re incarnation is proved

[SiEmG]

1. This was a rushed presentation! Too much info..
2. Hameroff is a valuable scientist / doctor with organized thought, an open mind and an eye for eastern philosophy and culture, determined/ stubborn, and a fast thinker. Together with Penrose and Anriban they contribute a remarkable perspective. When I first started thinking about consciousness, I didn't find it reasonable that most of schools of thought didn't care about fundamental physics etc.
3. Hameroff's and Penrose's Orch OR does really start from the cutting edge science/physics, and theorizes a possible model of universe with Consciousness. It is educated guessing and humanly-biased divergent-thinking from that point, as every theory, but I am sure those 2 great minds have some good reasons to form it that way. It would be amazing that the rest 14 predictions they setted will be tested before those guys die.
4. Yes, Tegmark was mistaken, but in his defence he took the numbers it from a Penrose paper. However, this idea should move forward and this was a barrier. It deserves to be multiply attacked and tested; thus be chiseled, reformed and updated, or even canceled by valid argumentation. This process will bring us closer to the truth {sic}.

[Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time]

we can explain conscious awareness in its most simple form has electrical activity in the brain that is aware of its own electrical potential. Consciousness is always in the forefront of the creative process therefore each individual is able to look back in time in all directions from ‘the moment of now’ in the center of their reference frame at the beauty of the stars. This personalization of space and time gives us the concept of ‘mind’ with each one of us having our own unique personal view of the Universe with an uncertain ∆×∆pᵪ≥h/4π probabilistic future. The flow of Time ∆E ∆t ≥ h/2π as a process of continuous energy exchange and our consciousness as a continuous stream of unbroken ever-changing flow of ideas, feelings dreams hopes perceptions and emotions are interlinked.

[jentorninos.ballen]

Ang skit db sakin Ang KAKahiyan sakanila Ang gin hawa Ng Buhay sakin Ang PAG KASIRA Ng Buhay. Ko at kakahiyan

[bobray]

so this is why zapping the brain helps with mental issues.

[claudedolorossa]

If consciouness is related to quantum phenomena, we probably shouldnt give AI access to a quantum computer.

[jentorninos.ballen]

Mahirap mapag laruan Ng Buhay k sa kakahiyan dahilan Sayo LAHAT Kaya nakikila bansa mo Ako sa buhay ko NASA kakahiyan Ng buhay ko

[spectrepar]

So i get lost at free will. I think free will has a logic problem more than a substrate problem unless someone can better explain it to me.

[terencedavid]

At 2:30 Stuart says definitively, that under anaesthesia the brain is still active but the consciousness is gone. This is not proper scientific knowledge, a flawed understanding of brain function/activity, aka the mind and consciousness.
MIND and CONSCIOUSNESS are two completely different things, that must be differentiated against and simply cannot be confused one for the other.
They are not synonyms of each other.
This seems to be the culprit, the chief conspirator, the main misconception in current western studies on mind and consciousness.
Under anaesthesia, there is induced reductiion of brain activity, feeling, sensation and cognitive functionality. The absence of cognition is not evidence of absence of consciousness. 🤔hmmm
Au contraire, it is only in consciousness that we can appreciate the activity or non activity of the brain, or anything else for that matter.
To use computer analogy, it is akin to turning on the sleep button on a computer, thereby inducing sleep. Therefore, it would be an imcorrect inference that the Wifi field, consciousness 'has gone'. Rather the brain has been put to sleep.
Sorry, that is simply not the case.
Consciousness is the Unified field in UFT.
I conclude by saying that consciousness is the prima materia, the first cause, the Light within which everything exists, can ever be known and can ever be experiencEd.
CONSCIOUSNESS IS.
Tat Tvam Asi.