Do or Don't: Seraphon (Lizardmen)

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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - Brilliant Sponsorship
2:48 - Background Lore
4:54 - Lore Positives
12:02 - Tabletop Positives
17:25 - Lore Negatives
20:23 - Tabletop Negatives
24:14 - Conclusion
24:58 - Frog Emperor Best Emperor

Music:
Kevin MacLeod - Lord of the Land
Sunless Sea - Wolfstack Docks
Age of Mythology - Chocolate Outline, Eat Your Potatoes, In a Pile of Its Own Good, Flavor Cats, The Ballad of Ace Lebaron, Hoping for Real Betterness, Adult Swim

[albertomoreno]

"see chaos, apply club to face" - as a player whose first army is Seraphon, this man knows my soul.

[docterfantazmo]

I love how even the genetically engineered, magic laser wielding, space dinos who were born and bred to curb stomp Chaos could NOT put down da greenskins.

[Lumavah]

One of the AoS lore bits I enjoyed in the new Sepharon book was when a Stormcast Eternal and Saurus were guarding a gate to a city. The Stormcast keeps trying to make small talk to the Saurus, who just doesn't care, until the Stormcast mentions how many kills she got. The Saurus responds by slapping the ground with its tail to reply its own kill count. Was pretty nifty.

[Razzrazz]

"This is the ideal Celestial body. You may not like it, but this is what peak BOK looks like"

[TheMooseah]

I love the lizardmen.
Simple in their motives, juvenil but cool concept or dinosaurs riding dinosaurs with lazors.
Brilliant.

[dank_smirkndchannel]

The Seraphon are hilarious when you think about it.

You got the Skinks who are these little Vietcong dudes who can tame the deadliest of dinosaurs, some can become wizards, and some are master assassins that can blend into the shadows with ease.

You got the Kroxigors who are like 8 feet of pure crocodilian muscle and bulletproof scales that spend all day doing construction and getting swole.

You then got the Saurus who are these masters of combat with thousands of years of experience under their belt and are basically Space Marines combined with dinosaurs who are able to swallow a human wizard like a slim jim.

Then you got the other dinosaurs which consist of:
- Carnosaurs: Tyrannosaurs but with actually useful arms and a velociraptor killing-claw on all four limbs (aka, angrier versions of the Megaraptorans from Kaimere on steroids and crack)
- Bastiladons: Ankylosaurs with either a massive laser on their back or the ability to summon infinite snakes.
- Troglodons: Simo Häyhä reincarnated as Spinosaurs who don’t need eyes to headshot you with acidic venom that'd make the Tyranids of Hive Fleet Gorgon jealous.
- Stegadons: Ceratopsians which can alter the laws of reality themself.
- Ripperdactyls: Pterosaurs that got just a bit to comfortable with piranhas on one long winter night and whose resulting spawn got addicted to licking toads.
- Terradons: Pterosaurs that took just a bit to much inspiration from Fat Man and Little Boy.
- Aggradons: Raptors that make a Khorne berserker look hematophobic.
- Raptadons: Raptors that are somehow as smart as the skinks, taking "clever girl" to a whole other level and are said to be connected to the literal Seraphon god of wisdom himself. They also act as paladins alongside their Skink riders who have laser spears.
- Spawn of Chotec: Lizards who think that swimming in lava is a bit mild and breathe enough fire to put a dragon to shame, which of course is also acidic.
-Etc.

Taking all that into account, it makes you wonder what absolute beast could even hope to lead these things, and then you find out that it's an obese frog on one of those floating chairs from WALL-E.
And you, understandably and rightly, chuckle at the sheer absurdity of the situation, until you realize that these especially rare Pepes are able to turn a continent inside out with just a flick of a finger and erase you from existence with a semi-conscious frog fart because the Old Ones probably knew that it would be way funnier if some dumbass Chaos berserker got zapped by an obese frog instead of a dino man.

God I love the Seraphon.

[hammer]

In defence of the lizardmen going to space, the skaven literally dropped the moon on lustria and no one is surviving that kind of an impact. The seraphon also were responsible for guarding the remaining eggs and survivors of the draconian empire, thus giving us the dragons that are buddies with the stormcast we have now.

[PhilosophicallyAmerican]

Seraphon pros: You have adorable, precious Skinkies!

Seraphon cons: Occasionally, you must put the precious Skinkies in danger

[Glandorray]

The reason Nakai in Fantasy is my favorite character-

A young woman screeches in terror as her newborn infant daughter is being sacrificed on an altar to Slaanesh by a group of cultists, she cries out to the gods for help.

Suddenly a twenty foot tall gator-man stumbles into the scene and death-rolls all the cultists, looks at the weird screaming babe and picks it up, awkwardly placing it back in the arms of her mother. Nakai utters two words. "Where north?" The mother, still in shock but only barely cogniscent of what is being asked points in the direction of north.

Nakai goes the opposite way.

Two days later, an entire brigade of lizards shows up and asks where the holy one has gone.

She points in that same direction.

The Skink priest guiding the convoy of followers indicates that 'yes, he follows the great plan'.

This is my own personal interpretation and characterization of the Lizardmen, they're likely to be more apathetic if not aggressive toward humans...but y'know what? Nakai's a good boy and this feels in character for him!

[Never_heart]

I will forever love that basically every other character that comes back from the dead needs either a complex meticulous ritual or a god to bring their soul back to life. But Lord Kroak just decides "Well that was a nice nap time to wake up return to life and mini sun nuke some Chaos" and just by deciding he is done being dead for now it becomes true.

Or how Nakai was able to give demons PTSD. During a massive Chaos invasion, massive as in a literal flood of demons massive, Nakai's city was being attacked. The demons where seemingly unstoppable, until Nakai stood upon the one bridge deeper into the city and challenged the demons alone. He held the bridge by himself against the Chaos tide. He beat them so bad that even after the demons reformed in the Chaos Realms, they forever would hesitate when attacking a bridge because what if Nakai appeared here as well?

[phantomwraith]

I'm also a skaven supremacist, but credit where it's due, Gorrok and Kroqgar fighting on a literal skyscraper of skaven corpses during the endtimes was so badass

[parkermaisterra]

Didn’t realize it but now I wish we saw the Lizardmen fight the Necrons.

I Don’t care how and I don’t care if they are literal universes apart.

I want to imagine someone tell these badass dinosaur people that all the old ones are dead and it was because of the robot space Egyptians then watch as two badass factions go to war

[ravagegames]

ever since i think 6th edition i loved how they redid lizardmen they took them form an odd kinda side race and made them incredibly badass! Lets face it the concept of dinosaurs riding other dinosaurs is just excellent

[TheLordofMetroids]

One thing the coxices mention, the Seraphon are shockingly Kitbash friendly. They take on the traits and physicality of the realm they put their base in. So those who land in Aqshy might become pure fire or obsidian monsters. Those who land in Shyish might start to be born without skin, becoming skeleton lizards.

Stuff like that.

[ce]

To add to the “in AoS they solved their spawning numbers problem so are everywhere now aren’t doomed by losses” their space ships and temple cities multiply too. When they gain enough energy they unfold like golden puzzle boxes and self-replicate.(Old One STC’s/3D printers)

This is how they went from the End Times having only a few dozen temple-ships fly off the planet to now their faction map shows they have vast fleets stationed all across the Arcane Cosmos with more temple cities besides that are on top of AND on the underside of the Realms.

That’s even why with the recent Life Flood Alarielle made causing unexpected havoc and disrupted the cosmic balance which angered the Seraphon(to the point the no longer can ally gameplay-wise with Sylvaneth like they could in the past) they did let it slide because the cosmic energy unleashed energized both their fleets to multiply, cities self-expand & even reawakened long dormant buried vessels in the Realm crusts which were repaired and able to fly off.(for the Sylvaneth’s part they’re making amends by hunting down the elementals & monsters the Life & Beast floods have unleashed)

Also makes and interesting symbiosis where the Seraphon maintain the ships to replication point and the ships in turn make more spawning pools for them to continue populating from(and occasionally unlock hidden vaults of powerful weapons or unhatched monster eggs they can take).

[MrNetWraith]

Fun fact; originally, the Slann and Lizardmen were two entirely separate factions. This is OLD Warhammer lore, going all the way back to the 2nd and 3rd edition, but originally the Lizardmen were the original inhabitants of the Warhammer world, reduced to barbarism after being conquered and defeated by the invading Slann, who reshaped the world in such a way that humans and elves could then grew to dominance, and then ironically degenerated into tribal barbarians themselves. Whilst slann armies could field lizardmen, they were press-ganged vassals only slightly better off than the legions of drug-addled, castrated human slave-soldiers that the slann also fielded, and the slann varied from the now-iconic mage-priests to warriors and scouts. 5th edition is where slann and lizardmen were rewritten into differing castes of a singular reptilian-based biotech robot race created by the mysterious Old Ones, thus taking the form they are now synonymous with today.

[capriciouscat]

That official Age of Sigmar ttrpg that was mentioned, Soulbound, actually has a small supplement book that allows you to make Skink Starpriest or Saurus Oldblood player characters, and while as mentioned in the video the book says that they are especially fitting for dipping in and out of adventures (for players who can’t always regularly come to games), they’re still perfectly fine to run regularly as any other character

[nerdyvids]

Looks like we’re getting a one-two BOK between Lorecrimes and Pancreas. Lord Kroak approves.

[Evangel-aclr]

I love how GW sits their and hypes up the god skeleton of man kind and yet they keep making similar characters as him who do things better then he has ever tried to do in the past. if you want me to believe this guy is so cool then have him actually do something besides rotting on a golden throne that wasn't even meant for him in the first place.

[Copperbagel]

Can we all agree that just hearing about the Seraphon/lizardmen beating the shit out of other factions in the coolest ways is the best feeling. We need some books from their perspective.