Did Monty Deserve Better? (The Unloved Glamrock)

All of the Glamrocks have been topping favorite character charts for a while now... except one. What's the deal with Monty Gator? Is he Five Nights at Freddy's most divisive animatronic? And if so... why? Well, that's what we're going to try and uncover today!

Music:
Kicks and Bricks and Dirty Tricks - Fury's Rage
Cybernetic Breakdown - Fury's Rage
Venta Black - Security Breach
Cemetary Clown - Sir Cubworth
Sloppy Clav - Godmode
Monty's Gator Golf - Security Breach

0:00 The Popularity of the Glamrocks
0:54 Monty Gator, the Odd One Out
2:10 Who is Monty Gator?
3:00 Fury's Rage, PROTEIN SHAKE
3:27 Wild Gator loose in the Pizzaplex (Security Breach)
4:04 Monty's Shattering Mission and Boss Fight
6:10 Why Monty's Missions are so Lacking & Unfinished
6:45 Monty's Lack of Moments & Personality
7:49 Shattered Monty, the weakest one
8:44 The Decline & Fall of Monty in Ruin
10:34 Cassie's Lack of Sympathy for Monty
11:02 Monty's Backstory is about Bonnie
11:20 The Fan Reaction at the Time
11:43 How Help Wanted 2 Characterized the Bots so Well
12:31 Monty was Cut from Help Wanted 2
13:09 Why Monty's Cut is so Odd
14:12 How the Bonnie Mystery Hurt Monty's Character
15:36 The Problem with Monty the Afterthought
15:49 The Real Reason Why Monty was Left Behind
17:15 Comparison with Sun & Moon
18:07 What is VIP?
18:42 Monty's Surprising Characterization in VIP
20:10 Why VIP Monty is Best Monty
21:12 The Tragedy of Monty's Lost Story
21:49 Did Monty Deserve Better?

[richardderatte]

Great video, I learned so much about my favorite modern fnaf character! As a pre-Ruin Monty defender, I feel there are a couple more details about Monty in base security breach that really drive home how little Steel Wool gave Monty.

1. His quote after enter monty golf. When you enter any of the other glamrocks’ attractions, they give you a detailed description of their attraction, which includes tons of personality. That’s where Roxy’s famous “Nobody likes a loser.” line comes from, and I swear Freddy’s fazerblast one is over a minute long, it’s like a sketch. The voiceline when you enter the Monty Golf elevator is "Welcome to Monty's Gator Golf. Home of the Hurricane Hole in One! We're currently closed for the night, come back soon!" HUH?? None of the other recordings mention being closed, not even Roxy’s, even though her attraction is literally closed for repairs! That isn’t development crunch, that’s writing crunch, and I’m comfortable saying that knowing Security Breach suffered from both. You hit the nail on the head when you said “We don’t even know if Monty likes golf.”, and it’s because of blatant omissions like this one. It wouldn’t have been hard at all just to have Monty’s voice actor proclaim his love of golf at his own attraction, but they chose not to. Because I don’t even think that Steel Wool knows whether or not Monty likes golf.

2. Freddy’s reaction after you insert Monty’s claws. After getting Chica’s voicebox and Roxy’s eyes, Freddy displays concern and sympathy for his friends. After getting Monty’s claws though, despite the fact that they are obviously the easiest to figure out where they came from as freddy can literally see two green and purple hands attached to his body, he never comes to the conclusion they are Monty’s, despite verbally confirming he knows Monty has claws just like these in the same scene. Thus, we never get Freddy expressing any emotion to Monty individually in Security Breach. This discrepancy is actually so inscrutable that I’ve seen a fair bit of speculation on it. Some people argue this is why shattering Monty comes first in the timeline because Freddy then becomes progressively more and more aware of Gregory’s antics (personally I think there's far more to support the opposite, not least of which because shattered Monty was completely dysfunctional outside of the burntrap fight on launch, suggesting Monty-first was the least tested route), others have used this to speculate that Freddy dislikes Monty, either because he just doesn’t want anyone to replace Bonnie or because he actually knows that Monty hates him and/or Bonnie, if you want to believe that. My in-fiction explanation has always been that Freddy has rather complicated feelings about Monty that he’s not supposed to say in front of kids/guests, so he avoids it (because he’s obviously avoiding it). My out-of-fiction explanation is that for whatever reason, Steel Wool did not want to specify Freddy’s feelings about Monty, so that’s why they avoided it at all costs. When I was more hopeful, I thought this might be because they had planned on expanding the Monty v Bonnie and Freddy lore, but now I just think it’s because Steel Wool didn’t have any more idea what they wanted Monty’s relationships to be like than his personality.

3. Monty’s voicelines. You mention in your video that Monty stops talking altogether in Ruin, but he actually stops having any intelligible voicelines after you shatter him in the main game. I think this got overlooked by most players since Shattered Monty was missing from several sections in the base patch and if you shattered Chica first, you probably only heard him in the burntrap fight, where nobody talks anyways. But Roxy talks in complete sentences and has complete thoughts after being shattered, even though her skull was torn open. Why does Monty devolve like this? Chica doesn’t speak, but she had her voice box ripped out, and as mentioned in the video, it’s a natural progression of her arc. Monty has no arc to speak of. He says “Rock and roll!” at Gregory and then turns into a literal animal for seemingly no reason. Perhaps this was supposed to be a sort of bully comeuppance story, where Monty has at first portrayed as cool but is never able to recover from having his ego shattered, so he’s exposed as a brainless idiot. But honestly, any interpretation seems like a stretch when we have this little to work with. Monty had so much potential, which fans genuinely picked up on. You have the 80’s bully, like I mentioned, or the villainous stooge, like you mentioned. My favorite interpretation is that of the band’s hotheaded diva, since he’s mean, doesn’t like the band leader specifically, and sometimes doesn’t show up for shows. He’s the “bad boy” of the band, that’s why he’s got the most punk-rock style. I could see each one of these being the interpretation of the Steel Wool at one point or another during concept development and up to the VIP book, it’s just a shame that it feels like Steel Wool gave up on him, and so early too. They couldn’t put Monty in Help Wanted 2 because if he was un-shattered he would have to speak, and they had given up on writing Monty speaking lines before Security Breach had even come out.

[Mr.Dinosalt]

"Monty was just an afterthought, CONSISTENTLY"

You summed it up perfectly. Thats why he feels so out of place compared to everyone else. A real shame, he is by far the most unique when it comes to design.

[FNaF_Fan_ydn]

I like to think Monty is supposed to/wants to be like a chill cool guy, while in reality is a dumb brute with massive anger issues

[amalgama-dette]

Hey kid you won!
*Eats the trophy*
Well done
Monty after every game

[SkrunkyTheClown]

I've said this once, Monty will never be a replacement for Bonnie. And i think that should've been the point.
He's not Bonnie's replacement, he's his own character.
Imagine how his story would be if he struggled with Impostor syndrome. He feels as if he doesn't deserves his fans, because they began to acknowledge him after Bonnie was decommissioned, and not before. He doesn't wanna follow up after Bonnie. He wants people to see him as his own thing. And that can be a suffocating thing.
Which, could lead up to his aggressive behavior. Why he trashed his entire room, and continues to do so regardless of how many times the staff puts it back together. He's overwhelmed, and fed up with being compared to the Infamous Blue Rabbit
That's why he would stay in his own attraction so much. It's the only place where he can actually be himself. And he'd most likely stay up at the catwalks, specifically to avoid people

Chica has an eating disorder.
Roxy is a raging narcissist
And Monty COULD, have had Imposter Syndrome. Which, effectively led to his anger issues.

[witherslayer]

Giga Monty is the consequence of all the bullying we've done to him.

[pinxelated]

There's so much potential for a tragic villain story here. Monty could've been a character who was always doomed to be stuck in the shadows of the other, more popular mascots. Someone who could've been a very flawed, yet somewhat loveable, silly goon who got consumed by his own envy and frustration, to the point that he got so aggressive he did the unthinkable. I think seeing that descent into madness would've been both tragic and terrifying.

[casualcommenter]

You’ve got to hand it to the Fazbear mechanics department for making a machine that can withstand a critically damaging fall, heavy erosion and submersion in water.
Monty must have juiced on a full MCI’s worth of remnant to last this long. Absolute unit 🦾.

[laatmaasquanariin]

Ain't no way I was robbed of himbo Monty!!! We truly live in the worst timeline

[georginaisaacs]

I love him so much, like how can you not love a big strong himbo who daintily eats chips off the floor and just generally is the personification of the “Florida Man” meme?? Justice for Monty, he’s a sweetheart and deserved far more 😭🐊

[giovannisoto]

The reason why I loved Monty so much was because his design reminded me of an actual gator golf place I went to in Florida. I wish Monty had a personality, I’ve seen fan comics with better characterization than the actual canon

[sweethistortea]

Monty: Has severe anger issues, probably knocked Bonnie, and would not hesitate to take someone apart.
The FNAF community: “I can fix him.”

[Emars]

1:52 No. There were several balls dropped on him. Several balls and a bucket.

[LiterallyUnlovable]

i just realized that people hating gregory for breaking the animatronics is the same as a kid being punished for standing up to a bully

[acemcwolf]

You know what would of been a *REALLY* cool idea, That would of facilitated him getting a redemption arc like Roxy? Have the Bonnie incident be (If not caused by Vanny's hacking.) an accident.
He and Bonnie are up on the catwalks talking, Laughing, Being bros. Then, After a vocal jab from bonnie, Monty jokingly nudges him, But due to a mixture of him not knowing his own strength, And Fazbear's shitty construction practices, The railings break and Bonnie falls. Monty did kill Bonnie, But it was an accident. Not even an act of anger, Or during a heated argument, Just him nudging Bonnie with just a *little* too much force for the railing to take, And Bonnie fell.

You might be asking: "Why would Bonnie be in the bowling alley then? If Monty moved him there, Why?"
I believe that all the animatronics have some level of knowledge to their expendability (I imagine it's a mix of this and her personality programming that's the reason behind Roxy's self-image issues.), So between fear of what the others would do if they found out, And the idea that since he destroyed one of the main-stage band members, He'd get decommed for sure, He hid Bonnie in his own attraction to make sure nobody figured out the truth.
Monty started dragged Bonnie to Bonnie bowl, But ended up raking his claws across his chest, Causing the scratches with the green paint, So Monty decides to drag him to Bonnie bowl in a tarp, easier to answer questions that way, Instead of hauling Bonnie's corpse over his shoulder.
The crappy bowling ball cover-up was a last ditch effort, In the possibility of somebody actually finding Bonnie's body.

In the end, In this version, Monty did kill Bonnie, But it was a complete accident. Monty's constantly walks the catwalks because that's where he and his best friend hung out, Reminding himself of the good times, And his worst mistake.

Hmm... Somebody killing somebody they love after a *bit* of rough-housing goes wrong... Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?...

Also, Unrelated, But: 22:36 Cyber-funk sounds like a *KICK-ASS* line of animatronics. Kinda want to see what that could look like.

[seasonembrace]

Gotta say Monty’s fatality in his damaged state is honestly pretty darn terrifying especially with that vacant stare of his 👁👁.

[slaphead]

calling him an angry chihuahua is so goddamn perfect it's amazing, chef's kiss

[IsleofPigsStudios]

He doesn’t have a *LEG* to stand on for sure.


I’ll see myself out now.

[Jman-oygl]

It’s ironic how in-universe, Monty’s perception is the exact opposite as it is in real life. This dude literally rivals Bonnie in popularity in-universe, a much older animatronic, yet people have to push for him to get more in real life.

[anjellogames]

Monty was definitely hated in the beginning. Mostly the theories leaning towards him murdering Bonnie who is a fan favorite. All the security breach character designs are perfect! Wish Monty gets more screen time later on.