Bird Feathers Found In Both Engines Of Jeju Crash 737 #jejuairlines

Welcome to a special edition of Daily Airline News.
We bring you news that investigators have found bird feathers and blood in both engines of a Jeju Airlines 737 plane that crashed in South Korea last December.
So, what do we know for facts and from informed speculation?
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[williamturner]

There was power for a go around and traffic pattern. Proving beyond a doubt, there was power to continue the original straight in approach.

[knackered]

A couple of points here. 1 - You don't request a go around, you carry out a go around and then advise the tower. 2 - In the timeline given here, the aircraft suffers a loss of all electrical power before the loss of engine no. 2, which doesn't seem to make sense.

[irenevais]

So the ATC knew of the major electrical failure of this plane, but did not order the deployment of all available fire fighting facilities? They know their airport is vulnerable due to its proximity to the bird habitat, they also issued a warning of bird flock activity just a few minutes before the bird strike, but they did not take any precautionary measures to protect these lives? Its name clearly states that it is an international airport, but they do not have sufficient personnel during a high traffic season in order to keep the birds away? This is getting more and more outrageous, Muan airport has too many safety issues to continue to be operating like this.

[JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel]

I can't imagine how horrible it was for the family members to see the videos and watch the explosion knowing your loved one was inside. Absolutely heartbreaking!

[jmy]

The sound of what appears to be the right engine running as it passes the camera tells us that it was producing power....how much is the question. Also where was the aircraft when (if) it lost all engine power? Must have been during the turn back to the airport or on their final approach. To lose all thrust on your way out would mean the aircraft had to execute the U turn and then make it back to the runway. I don't know that would be possible due to the amount of altitude loss in that turn, then to fly across the threshold at 200kts. It doesn't look like, according to the flight path, that they had too much altitude to play with.

[easydrive]

Makes sense now, both engines disabled with the aircraft at low height and speed due to landing configuration, so pilots decided to keep gear up with no flaps to try keep speed up to make the runway, so the pilots havr actually done a great job and all pax and crew would of been alive if it was not for the ils mound, terrible!

[JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel]

I think they need to design a system that deploys a guard in front of the engines to deflect birds when it detects them. Could use radar, lidar, sonar. Or have it engage on takeoff and landing when the plane is at a certain altitude where birds could be present.

[echassin]

Even if bird strikes caused both turbines to fail completely, the aircraft's design needed to enable ADSB, the black boxes, and basic functions with an immediate and automatic switch to backup power. Either the plane wasn't so equipped and/or there are contributing factors besides the birds.

In the same vein, the bird strikes don't explain the flight path: we know there was enough power for the go-around, ergo there was plenty of power to continue the descent into the initial approach. That also suggests other contributing factors.

[TheManGrant]

If power failure occurred from bird strike, then a go-around was commenced, how could the landing gear and flaps be raised without power for the go-around. Something is fishy here.

[andret]

Other analysts of video noted there was power in right engine. Perhaps degraded power. Bird strike doesn't necessarily mean engine is dead.

[gregtriplett]

The engineer who signed off on the localiser support structure has some explaining to do.

[johnreas]

Great reporting….esp 2009/2010 battery back-up change.

Still….why didn’t that ding-dang Pilot just land straight-in? With his landing gear & flaps ALREADY deployed?

[TyroneJenkins-lxnn]

ATC should begin cancelling approaches when there is danger by birds and develop a better way to disperse them, its there turf.

[richysuphiy]

If the reverser on eng2 is operating, that mean eng2 is working🧐🤨 this reporter is no expert!!😂🤣😂🤣

[HawkerXP]

Almost looks like the pilot is holding the nose off the runway. Another YouTuber made the comment that the puff of smoke out of the right engine could be the result of pulling the fire handle discharging the Halon. 🤷‍♂️

[michaelshrader]

So where's all the critics who were saying it's impossible for a bird strike to take down a modern passenger jet??? (silence!) Hmmm.... imagine that.

[mmmqua]

Thank you, Geoffrey. ❤ You're one of the very few analysts who covered this ongoing investigation into this tragedy, with thoughtful analysis, correct information, and rational thinking, without bias.

I'm glad they finally confirmed what most of us with common sense all knew, within the first few days when the eyewitness reports came out. Hopefully all those YT commentors (and some pathetic channels) can stop trying to only blame the pilots for shutting down a "wrong" engine now, and just wait till more confirmed information comes out of the full investigation.

[Toro_Da_Corsa]

So they probably pulled the fire handles on both engines. Thus causing the loss of generated power (terrible design)and turned the plane into a glider