I'm getting rid of my Unifi Dream Router…

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Keep in mind that the 8 port "switch" or LAN ports on the UDM's (pro/SE) both are actually 9 port switches, in that the 9th 1Gbps port is what is directly connected to the CPU. This is why you can't do link aggregation on those ports. So depending on the exact use case you can have a bottleneck on those ports as well, as you only have a max of 1Gbps. Its like your 24 port switches uplink ports. Also if you have a spare port on the 8-port Link Agg switch, you can aggregate both 1Gbps links to a single 2Gbps port for higher throughput to the UDM over that 10G connection. I have a similar setup in that I come from 10G LAN port to the 32 port Aggregation switch, and from there have 2x10Gbps aggregated ports to the 24 Port POE Pro switch and 4x10Gbps to the 48 Port POE Pro switch. This allows transfers between those switches and other parts of the network to be faster. It helps remove potential bottlenecks. 🤠👍

Chris_In_Texas
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I've already installed 2 of these devices for my clients and it's a pretty slick router. I have no complaints.

thenuclearsandwich
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People are disappointed because they buy the wrong device for their needs. The udr is an excellent device fo many home users. Likeeise the dream machine Pro or SE will be wrong for many home consumers. Read specs properly and buy the right device for you in the first place dave money and be happy

PabloTBrave
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The UDM-SE is geared for SMB and the 'tinker/enthusiast prosumer.'

If you have a house and CAT 5e/CAT6 in the walls it's an absolute no brainer. In a small/medium size apartment? It's got less utility and if you like 'set it and forget it' the UDR is probably the way to go. It's the device I would buy for my retiree mother or luddite family members so I can admin them remotely when they have issues.

However, if you can hide a few RU of rackmount gear somewhere where the fan noise and LEDs won't drive you batty I would go straight for the UDM-SE.

I've got three racks in my home. A 6 RU open rack in my comms cabinet (everything noisy lives there). An 8 RU rack hiding in my TV unit and a 12 RU rack for my audio production gear/fanless compute/networking which lives in my office.

PhillipHilton
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Although I don't believe you can completely disable the built-in AP on the UDR, you can still have your SSIDs only broadcast from only your other APs to avoid interference. I'm running a similar setup right now and it works perfect for me.

lthemanl
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I appreciate these videos. You have a great conversational style of presentation. Also, I appreciate the balanced presentation of the UDR. I think many users had sky-high expectations due to the reputation of the brand and were left disappointmed when their expectations weren't met. For me, with 50/20 fibre internet, a small apartement and a NAS, it's a good option and so much more accessible than the OpenWRT based routers I've had trouble mastering.

teajay
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The problem with the UDM Pro / SE, is the 8 ports are limited to 1GB backplane switching, you need to use the 10Gb Uplink to a decent switch if you want to have more than 1Gb switching. There is no link aggregation and thats also because it can only do 1Gb backplane. After I put mine in, I searched and found that out.
So now it’s quickly expanded from just having the UDM Pro, to now. UDM Pro, UDM 10Gb aggregator, UDM 2.5GbE, 2x U6-Pro AP’s. I’m very happy with it, just wish I knew that you can’t link aggregate or more than 1Gb switch in the UDM Pro.

PilotBusaKaine
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Point of note, the 2.5gbe WAN-port is plagued by a decade old problem. It will lock up if you push too much traffic through it and it will *NOT* recover until you hard reboot it (power off/power on). Worked with Ubiquiti for months to get it fixed, but to no avail. The used chipset has this problem in Linux, period. No fix was ever released for the chipset in Linux. I instead configured the WAN-port on port 8 (1gbe, instead of the 2.5gbe port 9). This has worked fine ever since I used it and the connection has been stable for months on end. Port 1-8 (1 gbe / poe+) are Annapurna (owned by Amazon) chipset ports. Port 9 (2.5gbe) is Realtek.

Eihrister
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You definitely need a rack for your UDM hardware :) Looking forward to see a video of you upgrading your current homelab.

JakeBloodless
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FYI one feature that you forgot to mention for the UDM-SE is that with IDS/IPS enabled your maximum throughput is 3.5Gbps. That's the main reason I bought it. It's surprisingly hard to find routers with 1gbps or more throughput with IDS/IPS built in. And it costs almost more to get a router and separate firewall to meet that capability.

diablo
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Thank you for your video, I agree with your assessment. However, be careful on relying on the 8 ports of the UDM SE. My UDM Pro has a total bandwidth of 1 GB across all 8 ports. This means that there is a definite potential to throttle your bandwidth by adding too many devices or heavy bandwidth devices to the 8 ports. If Unifi added more bandwidth to the back-plane of the 8 ports that would be my selling point to trade out my Pro for an SE. I Like the fact that the SE has POE but I am more concerned about the backplane. If anybody knows if they fixed it (added more bandwidth - not really broken) on the SE I would love to know. Almost every video I watch of a person hooking up a UDM Pro they only have one port in use and the other 7 ports empty.

randydowdy
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LOVE my SE. Upgrade from Pro to Pro SE. One of my major reason to choose Pro is I can have more than one access point easily. The management of other AP directly is worth the extra money. Also is the fact that as wifi standard improves, I can just change the AP instead of the router.

slam
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I finally got rid of my UDMP and went to a Firewalla Gold Plus and its been amazing. Still use the Unifi Protect Console but thats it. Firewalla has been amazing.

anthonystebbins
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So basically if you have a 1gb internet connection don't go for the UDR. Damnn 😢. Was just about to pull the trigger to go all in on unifi 😣. Guess I should save up. Thx for the video. You saved me from not buying the wrong things

MrBokkyboy
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Thanks pal. I'm about to get a fibre after like 9 years of fighting with every ISP in the area and your video is very useful to understand Dream Machine capabilities.

JacekS
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I went with a UDM Pro and added a Unifi 8 port PoE switch afterwards, but hey, it works great and I love my Ubiquiti network. Never will use anything else, and certainly never will use a consumer router ever again.

TransitAndTeslas
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Another great video Samir, nice buy for sure. I bought the UDMPro about a year ago before the SE came out but I have no need for it, my 48 port PoE has more than enough ports. I am also looking at adding an aggregation switch like yours but that will be later next year. Now you have a good excuse to get a network rack 😄

ecur
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How do you only 4k subs? That video was so professional I thought for a second I was in an LTT video. Keep up the good work I am sure the channel will grow over time.

MrGrannyStylez
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I recently switched to a UDM SE as well and also purchased a rack UPS. What bothers me is the fact that the UDM does not support out of the box NUT integration. The fact it has an internal hard drive is double concerning. Oh sure I could slap in a Pi as a NUT server and fudge my way through some SSH shutdown scripts but this is not right. If Ubiquiti want to be serious about their equipment especially ones that constantly perform database operations and record data to internal hard drives then lets get some type of power integration.

KielerInKanada
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just ordered my unify udmse and can't wait to get it.

mikemcdonald