BLP Piano Tuning Training: How to Raise the Pitch of a Piano

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[withsailandanchorstudios]

This video was SO helpful it was nice to see a full pitch raise and not just chopped video. The students asked a lot of the questions that I have as well.

[saschameier]

have tuned my piano yesterday, my first tuning in my life. Used the TLA CTS-5 tuning device... it worked so well, better as expectet, becuase i read alot of negative Comments - like you need 10 Years of experiance and so on. First i tuned the middle strings in the discant, than all the bass strings, than the side strings in discant and some middle strings as well, than all treble strings, and finally i tuned by ear some tones (with help of the tuning device) and check the octaves, quarts and quints... before tuning i check "a" it was about 437, 6 Hz (now 440 Hz). The best buy i have done, now i can tune my piano by myself, even if only some seperat keys are out of

[rogerd]

Harmonics of an acoustic piano is what sets them apart from electronic pianos as they cannot quite duplicate that quality

[conradsenior]

This is really interesting. Subscribed. Thanks for providing good content.

[marcorojas]

Thanks again guys for all your advice and help stay safe and blessed

[jeremyrusu]

I have pitch raised a piano from a half step flat and was able to bring it up without issues. I was lucky though and got the instrument right at 4:40 or even a little past when I was done, not much though.

[yinyangxperience]

Where are you located and where can we find details on schooling?

[Rlee-xs]

Some pianos in some situations do need another tuning sooner after a large pitch raise - no matter how well the pitch raise and fine tuning were done. That is just the law of physics. This is of course for an optimal state of the tuning and stability.

Having watched the video with all the broken strings - I have learned with pianos like this to not over-pull at all. I just work them up to pitch and let it drop and do a second pass (at pitch) to try and avoid this. However it does happen and I feel your frustration. That is not a sound you want to hear on your last piano of the day. 

Also I notice that you are using an up a note then back down a note as you are tuning your unisons, this could have an affect on the tension of the strings on the higher note and may have something to do with the breakage. A chromatic pattern of simply going up to the next note without back-stepping, though harder to work the mutes, might be a safer approach as the tension is moving more evenly as you work up the scale.

[aleksandrsstulpe]

Thanks. Please make a video about tuning tehnique, how do you release from the excessive tention the segment of the string from agraff to pin, when setting the pitch, if the pin is not tight enough and does not releases that segment of string by back-twisting? Would be wery interesting!

[justinoneil]

45:00

Im an aural tuner and occasionally get pianos that are more than 100 cents flat. Are you saying that these pianos can be pitch raised in one pass? The only strings I’ve ever broken have been when trying to do a raise in one session. Are these strings breaking due to a string fault or by “overstretching” them?

[donprior]

If you need an electronic tuner to pitch raise or even tune a piano you have not developed your ear very well. Learn aural tuning first to really train your ear. Tuning a piano with just a computer gives you a very sterile sounding piano. Its the slight fluctuations of the human ear that make the piano sing. That slight difference in temperament is what gives you tone color. Back in the day that is why composers wrote music in certain keys. It gave their music a different flavor. Equal temperament actually kills tone color. Try to alter your temperament to improve the sound of the piano. Many of my university music teachers loved my tunings because of this. Hope this helps somebody.

[profealejo]

Muy buen video, saludos desde Argentina!

[Alco-F]

I had the same problem with my D3, which is a bass unison in my piano. I was pitch raising it, and When I tuned D3, the right string broke on me, so I had to de-tune the bass section for the time I needed to replace D3's Strings

[Joe-eeno]

I never use machine to raise a pitch. Ear go very much faster than machine and u need to go fast...

[PijanitsaVode]

Does the non-correspondence of octaves account for different colors/feels/Affekts of various tonalities ?

But the Affektlehre predates equal temperament...

[PijanitsaVode]

Some doctrines say you tune in strict octaves, and tweak fifths and thirds.

[daphneblake]

I have a vintage player piano made by Conway Boston with an early design simplex player. It has been well used despite the player falling silent about 40 years ago. It's been tuned every 5 to 10 years maybe less. And has only one broken base string. The tuning is transposed lower. 440 is not the A key I was told manufacturers of the day didn't tune them up until a year or more after delivery and it took 6 tunings to bring it up to 440A. Maybe that is BS. I don't know. Either way I'm looking at doing a restoration myself since the piano has been in the family at least 65 years. My mother bought it with a trunk full of scrolls for $20

[PianosAndLightsabers]

I don't know if I'm being a jerk and asking a question that may be answered in the last 1/3 of the video - but I was really curious about pitch raising done aurally? I can't afford software, etc. because of how young I am in the business ... I was trained aurally by my family and a couple local local techs and have been pulling as close as I can or a little above for pitch raises (doing the same temperament) and then running through a second time for a fine A440 tuning. I admit, my family always waited a week which I guess was just tradition, it is nice on my shoulder though especially because I keep running into really tight baldwin spinnets around here.

[dougie]

22 min 5 sec …. It’s no wonder why sample based digital pianos struggle with sympathetic resonance.

[rogerd]

Are you talking about the "harmonics" of the string?