Pro Bowling Ball Layouts | Pin UP vs. Pin DOWN

Brad reviews the brand new Storm Summit Ascent. He compared a pin up to a pin down version to see which one performs better.

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[travisfaircloth]

Thank you for sharing many of the thought processes of pro bowlers.

[Jason-qtbm]

Excellent video. One key trend in this video that was not mentioned is the mental game and routine. Positive thinking and phrases after and before each shot. It is all about W.I.N ; What's Important Now. Focus on each frame. Keep up the great work and good luck this year

[Zchicken]

Ha ha…love the sit down on the stone 8. Brunsnick would be proud of you Brad. Pin up seems more predictable. Thanks for the vid.

[ericchristensen]

It was fascinating to hear the decision process on every single shot from a pro bowler. Unfortunately, google translate doesn't have a "bowler speak" => English setting and I only understood about half of what he was saying. One of his primary themes of finding the ball that handles misses better is a great takeaway that I WAS able to understand and will use. I tend to get enamored with the ball/angle/release combo that has the most explosive pin contact - which is fun when it happens but probably doesn't result in the highest scores.

[JoeBifBowling]

This SHOULD be basic knowledge, but unfortunately a LOT of people provide misinformation on this topic because they equate pin down to pin down with a low balance hole, which of course is now illegal.

Pin DOWN layouts take more weight out of the TOP of the weight block, which DECREASES differential.

Pin UP layouts take more weight out of the SIDE of the weight block, which INCREASES differential.

More Diff = more Flare = more downlane motion.

[jameskikirkwood]

I enjoy the video Brad. I wish you were my bowling Coach 😊😊😊Really

[jeffwimberly]

Congrats on today’s work, Brad. Keep on grinding!

[glennallen]

love this ball! just had a demo day and i couldnt miss with it!

[zakuraayame]

I am just getting into bowling, trying to learn as much as I can ...
why do bowlers use the little fan thing? hand sweat?
why are you wiping the ball so often? what is the difference between a ball that never gets wiped down on a third game?
many balls for various lane conditions and changing lane conditions ... how hard is it to adapt if you can only have one hook ball and one spare ball?

I'm just curious and willing to learn, just not sure where to search and results can vary; some channels use a lot of words but don't say as much as this channel shown; first time here.

edit: oh, and I did like and subscribe, thanks for asking at the end and not the start; and your calm demeanor :)

[CliftonDon]

Good pin up / pin down comparison video guys. I usually only go pin down with my strong asymm solid and pearl to make it more usable on a house shot, but maybe a pin down layout on a medium ball has its benefits as well.

[NkoStoneman]

Awesome as always, great games and nice explanations... be safe.

[larrylacroix]

A great video. Enjoyed it a lot. I bowl in that house so it really was interesting

[mrscoob]

Only pin down ball i have is a black widow 3 and i love it. Trips a lot of 4s. I was debating how i would drill this ball when i pick it up next week.

[doug_jones]

Loved that review and analysis! I almost always drill equipment pin up. I need to experiment with pin down layouts. What would you say the number of boards difference were between the two balls? Sounded like 4-5 boards and less angle with the pin down….

[SuperFatPainterMan]

Pin down on a symmetrical ball is terrible for me after the weight hole ban. It's basically just the cover doing all the work and I definitely don't have enough revs to make it work.

[JonSample]

Thoughts on full roller layouts? With the pin by the thumb. Recently changed my stuff to full roller and don't see much on it.

[charlesbrown]

Nice video. I always tell people you can throw a perfect release, hit the pocket every time, right ball speed, rev rate, etc. But bottom line comes down to this. The pins will do what they want to do. But yes. Having a good ball. Not really the newest bad A__ ball. Good release, and all the other stuff. It helps. That's what makes bowling a challenging sport. Thanks. 🤓😎🤔🫣😝😛🙄😉🎳🎺

[Mike]

I would like to see a split screen to compare pin up/down.

[davidaronson]

I could be wrong, but I suspect the inconsistency in the release, speed, oil moving, accuracy is going to make more of a difference than the pin placement. So you are never going to be able to tell which one you prefer. You prefer throwing the ball good and then it will work, no matter what. Unless I'm wrong.

[andrewweltlich]

I'm a huge fan of pin down, but the pin up looked best for Brad.