Fact Checking RFK Jr on All In Podcast | I break it down

Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor
Hematologist/ Oncologist
Professor of Epidemiology, Biostatistics and Medicine
Author of 450+ Peer Reviewed papers, 2 Books, 2 Podcasts, 100+ op-eds.

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[laurenpaer]

Invite RFK on to debate the childhood vaccine schedule!!!

Or even better, a series of debates on the whole schedule and the individual vaccines (or some of the ). Give each other the papers you’ll be citing ahead of time, so they can go through them.

That would be such a great service!

[bernadettesandoval]

His main point about vaccines is the liability waiver for manufacturers. We need to eliminate that.

[stephend]

Also Vinay, doctors were using HCQ and Ivermectin in the dark days early in the pandemic, and they thought they were getting excellent results. This was when people were being told to stay home until they could not breathe. Then they were being taken to hospital to die on ventilators, which were being used quite inappropriately oftentimes. And you and Dr. Ioannidis and others were saying not to give early treatment because there were no RCTs. To me this was therapeutic nihilism. Still seems that way.

[debbiejaynes]

The easons why Bobby is censored, smeared and despised revolves around the fact that he is correct about the vaccine schedule.

[pormantu]

Vinay Prasad exposed! Returning to true form: smearing experts! First, Robert Malone now RFK Jr. We haven’t forgotten!

[fiapop]

Vinay.... invite RFK jr on your podcast. I'm sure it'll be a huge hit, and you can challenge him directly and have a debate on the issue. I think it would be quite informative. His debate against Dershowitz was a hit.

[kathybrady]

Very telling that our govt with billions of $$$ never did RCTs on early treatment with moderate dosing. The I and H studies were bunk.

[gooberthoreau]

I see Vinay let the way the media has portrayed RFK's arguments to influence the way he perceived the points he was trying to make. Vinay projected onto RFK intent that wasn't stated on the podcast.

[sierragreen]

What's more important than whether Ivermectin and HCQ were effective was giving people the freedom to make their own decisions about prevention and treatment, including having the right to access these alternatives.

[finkelsteinshitkid]

These studies need to be evaluated one by one. I looked at a HCQ study which used crazy high toxic doses (8400mg total over 3-4 day course) when it’s well known to not be effective beyond a 400mg per day schedule.

On top of the that, MANY Ivermectin studies don’t start administering the drug until at the late end of the virus’s replication phase, & they intentionally weigh the sample sets towards the back end of course scheduling, when the drug is absolutely being given beyond the replication phase. And those studies always use a criteria for entry into those studies that require 2 or more symptoms, rather than 1 symptom from a PCR test. The studies seeking the extra symptom(s) again always delay the administration of the drug by at least 1 day, which is critical when using any protease inhibiting anti-viral drug. They also always weigh the sample sets towards the back end of the schedule rather than the front end. Again, this is done for obvious reasons; weighing the effects towards the late portion of the drug’s administration when it’s being given beyond the viral replication phase.

How much does the above matter, and is it known to those running the bogus trials/studies? Yes, it absolutely does, and yes, they absolutely do know. How do I know? Well, it’s as simple as reviewing the trial conducted on Paxlovid, which is also an anti-viral protease inhibitor, and which was conducted & used criteria/scheduling/weighted sample sets that were opposite to those used in the IRV studies/trials. Why? Because they knew it was the best chance to show actual positive results for Pfizer’s patented crap version of Ivermectin & HCQ. Btw, the PAX trial BARELY eked positive results, and yet the world was allowed to run with it, & governments, like ours, spent billions stocking up on it; the U.S. alone purchased at least 12 billion in Paxlovid, never mind that it actually reinfects/worsens up to 50% of those who take it.

Also, the ‘Together Trial’ for ivermectin’s effectiveness had most of it’s funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates’ Foundation, though now their names have been erased from ever being associated to that study which didn’t release it’s supporting data for 7 months post reporting of how it supposedly failed to show efficacy of IRv’s effectiveness, and even after the data was finally released, it was shown to have been missing &/or incomplete with the results given. Some statistical analysis was done upon the data release, and those statisticians proved the missing data was that which would have been positive results, and this apparently was done even with a trial that was orchestrated to fail, as it used max dosage of 24mg, while also using many of the bent methods I mentioned above.

Btw, you do good work, as it’s obvious from reading the comments here that your followers are well informed. Sharing & dissecting information is how we’re able to weed out the bad, and run with the good information. It’s not easy to have to change your opinions & positions, especially when you’re a public figure such as yourself, but you were man enough, and honest enough to do that, and that’s entirely commendable. Dr.Campbell is another whom I’ve followed since the beginning, and too had to do a complete 180 degree change in thinking & position after seeing & actualizing the data throughout the pandemic. Part of that actualizing is to understand & acknowledge the captured Health Agencies & their governments, who’ve been lying to us all along. Given that we’ve seen their nefarious actions time & time again throughout this pandemic, which has been all too profitable for some, isn’t fair to be skeptical of these trials on their face value? Shouldn’t we all put in the extra work to analyze them in depth before making a decision about that they’re concluding to see if they’re on the up & up? I hope & expect you will given your already proven willingness to change when given reason to. Cheers!

[philosophyze]

Dude, you were so wrong at the beginning of the Wuhan virus and early treatment. I remember seeing you on ZDogg's channel and you were so off. Z didn't get it (and for all I know) still is arrogant and clueless. You've wisened up which is commendable.

Watching the Dark Horse podcast really educated me on the weaknesses of taking both peer review and RCT studies without a healthy suspicion of the

We need a massive reform in tbe academic and scientific community before they are worthy of our trust and respect.

[I_AM_ACTOR_]

Man this is one of the worst ratios I’ve seen. It’s clear you’ve cultivated an incredibly intelligent community. Hopefully you do a follow up and speak to some of the concerns they are raising and get him to come on to your show.

[BobWidlefish]

7:30 Vinay: you’re too confident in ONE meta analysis. If you include intentionally corrupt studies in the meta analysis pool it can be used to suppress effects of small size. On this basis there is reason to consider the arguments of people who say the alternate meta analysis advocated by another camp should be seriously considered and not dismissed as if one meta analysis answers all questions finally. Maybe the meta analysis author themselves is on the payroll of some partisan in the issue: this is not rare. We shouldn’t shut the book too quickly, but rather consider the meaningful arguments offered by those who disagree.

[zacboyles]

10:11 “it’s not going to effect your ability to detect a rare safety signal” - Dr. Prasad says with a straight face while we’re in the middle of the most blatant, in-your-face, ignoring (globally!) of 100x the blinding safety signals verses what he criticizes the lack of placebo control. How can you even pretend these dangerous and incompetent public health officials would even acknowledge a safety signal had one occurred.

Just imagine if ivmn trials did that to placebo groups, you wouldn’t rest until the lab employees were retired the old fashioned way 🤦‍♀️



You asked RFK Jr to mention “who benefited”. You could take your own advice. Money, power and the new mask religions were all against ivm and the quality mask studies weren’t limited to masks.

[kmp]

Ivermectin were used widely across India and Japan too, very successfully. In India there's data from CNC one of the most respected medical instruments in India

[jacquieloller]

Vinay, I trust you & wish you’d go deeper on the vaccine schedule bc I think he made some good points. If the “placebo” vaccine contains an adjuvant like aluminum, and the aluminum toxicity slowly causes the immune system to spiral and turn to autoimmunity… then how do they tell the difference between the placebo and real vaccine if they both have aluminum? The immune system is complex so it’s not like an autoimmune condition shows up the day after vaccination, it could take time to build. But the childhood schedule is really, really full! Much more than when we were kids. And I’ve yet to find a study that actually looks at how we get aluminum out of our body when it’s Injected into muscle tissue.

Your friend Paul Offit just says things like “there’s more aluminum in our food. There’s more aluminum in breast milk!” But that’s misleading because when it’s digested the liver and kidneys filter out 99% of aluminum. There’s really only been one study done in intervenes aluminum solution and the amounts in vaccination go wayyyy over what was determined in that study. So how do we know it isn’t causing immune system disruption? Where is the aluminum going and why are so few people concerned when there are sooo many sick children these days?

I can’t seem to find a balanced answer to this.

[kathybrady]

I believe India distributed millions of boxes of big D and hydroxy early in the pandemic. What were their results? You could compare states in India that did and did not so that.

[ellenh]

During the first lockdown in New Zealand in April 2020, all swimming was prohibited. It was bizarre. Anyone who went into the water risked getting arrested. The police were patrolling the beaches. That was when I first realized that something very strange indeed was going on

[matthewz]

If RFK Jr made any false statements, why haven’t the parties he’s made accusations and claims against taken him to court and sued him for liable? They would in a heartbeat if he was lying or making false claims.

[polarxta]

RFK Jr's advocacy on behalf of children is exceptional. His work around exposing Fauchi on Aids, and then Covid is superb. He is head and shoulders better than any other candidate.