Is JavaScript BAD for Beginners? | Let's Rant

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[dexspits]

*I love this man he cares so much for beginners like me*

[dragos]

Mike's ranting series is actually a students encouragement session

[captainboon]

I really appreciate your understanding of where beginners are at; I wish more professionals would have this same level of understanding. Right now, I'm pursuing front-end development because, from my understanding, it's the easiest way to get your foot in the door of the coding industry. When I was learning and using HTML and CSS, I felt so confident, that, for the most part, I knew what I was doing, then along comes JavaScript. Learning JavaScript itself isn't the worst thing in the world; it's all these extra things that come along as a consequence of learning JavaScript that throws away that previous confidence I had. I'm not going to give up though; I've come too far. Eventually, I would like to get into back-end work, but hopefully in due time.

I like your rant videos; keep them coming.

[ChumX]

I get the frustration. Starting as a backend developer, I myself was a JS hater for a long time. But having used JavaScript in real projects for some years now (as there's really no good alternative), I changed my mind: User interfaces are inherently hard, specially at scale. And I am very grateful of JS and all the libraries, frameworks and services that really do help us developers get things done efficiently. We may not have solved the UI problem completely yet (and probably never will) but we sure have come a long way.

[ismailbouazizi]

Man I’m glad to know that my confusion about JS is actually justifiable and shared even among experienced people. The history of JS is also very informative thanks 🙏

[thisisepic]

wow, so happy to see you uploading vids after all this time. I have learned a lot from you and so glad to see you in 2021 once again; keep it up. There are a lot of things you can do so, please keep going and upload vids nonstop man, all the best in advance #love_you

[FangirlJournal]

oh, good so IT IS actually an inconsistent mess... i thought it was just me lmaoooo this made me feel much better

[fawadkabuli]

I'm just glad that from learning "hello World" from you, I am at a point now that I agree with you on a rant video.

[perrinromney]

Mike Dane: Knows literally every language ever written: "I don't know guys, I don't know." Yes Mike, you know.

[sentientslug]

mike your C# vids have helped me a lot. im getting into coding brand new to it and starting with C#. please do a video like this for C#. your feelings on it for newbies.

[the_ramann]

Developers:

Framework maker: they need one more, they need one more

[thegreatprogrammer]

I too felt very difficult when I came to js, even though I knew Python, Java when I came to JS

[SecretAgentPaul]

I love the rant videos too even though plenty of the info is way over my head.
You should do what Bucky did a few weeks back and have a big live Q and A so we can pick your brain for a few hours.

[manedurphy]

I agree with a lot of what you say, even the part about being a React developer and enjoying the torture of using all these tools (I like setting up webpack from scratch). But yes I started learning JavaScript, Node, and React early last year and even though I am coding and working on projects every day for most of the day I still feel like there is a lot more to learn. And with unlimited ways to implement the same functionality, is can be difficult to stay consistent. I often find myself looking at old work and wanting rearrange everything utilizing techniques that I've learned since the last time I've looked at that project.

I find it funny how much time I spent struggling with trying to understand the fundamentals, and now every so often I will read some documentation or watch a video on some of the fundamental basics of JavaScript and think about how hard it was for me to understand the first time but now the concepts are so clear.

[jbar]

I totally feel this way. Been working in my spare time trying to learn JavaScript and I have hit a wall. HTML and CSS were no problem and even learning the basics of JavaScript was fine. But then when I sit down and try to create something, I find that there are all these intricacies in just getting an app to run with JS and I feel defeated. Trying to push through. Mike’s vids have been very helpful. It’s nice to know that I’m not stupid and that JS implementation is very hard.

[haitiancreolewithluciano]

*I love how passionate and genuine you are- I’m a big fan. I just started learning python - just for the heck of it- and I’m loving it*

[desiotaku]

Finally!!!! Someone understands my dilemma. I wish there was a way to turn back time so that I could bonk the guy who came up with Node js and the other stuff.

[firemanyoda]

Thanks for putting this out there Mike. I've been studying JS development for 8 months and it is kicking my ass. Just when I think I get a handle on it I start learning another stack because junior devs are required to know all this shit. It's just too much. Getting buried. Possibly considering switching course and learning a different language.

[adamrohde]

Man, thanks for making this video. Yeah we need to come up with a different name for 'programming' in Javascript. It's not about writing code in the language, it's about making a handful of different libraries, frameworks, browsers, services, ecosystems, butterflies, stray cats...etc all work together. New programmers should definitely have an understanding of how a language like C# works in comparison IMO. Hang on to your butts, npm install.... here we go!

[lauralagora]

I agree on everything you said here. I've been learning programming (JavaScript/TypeScript) for 6 months now and mannn the more I learn it, the more I realise how beginner unfriendly it is... I probably wouldn't recommend it to a friend as their first language to learn (probably better to start off with Python to learn those base programming concepts).
But with all of that said - I still really love JS and do not regret that I started with it and I'm pretty sure it will remain my main language :D ^^
Can we expect to see TypeScript tutorial series? And how to work with TypeScript in React?