Stanley Kubrick Was More Redpilled Than You 50 Years Ago

Harry and Josh are joined by returning guest @ProperHorrorshow to examine Stanley Kubrick’s dystopian masterpiece A Clockwork Orange and his often-ignored period drama Barry Lyndon

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[alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

I think Kubrick tried to tell us something with the "mansion party scene" in "Eyes Wide Shut" - that is how the real power structure in the world actually works.

[Harry-vbl]

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[chanceotter]

During Covid and the summer of wokeness and riots I felt compelled to watch “A Clockwork Orange” for the first time since the early 90s, and it was stunning how important and relevant the film is.

[syddog]

The govt still gives soap opera's talking points. I remember during convid Eastenders had a cringe inducing scene castigating vaccine sceptics.

[GabrielBoorom]

I think the thing nobody's outright saying is, if this is what the rich & powerful ARE doing, then they want us to be as tolerant of these deviant behaviors as possible, so we don't raise an outcry when they're eventually uncovered. They don't want to face the consequences.

[JadeRunner]

One of Epp steen's(sp) victims said his parties looked exactly like the party in Eyes Wide Shut and said she is convinced Kubrick was trying to warn us about Epp Steen and people like him through movies.

Kubrick died of a "heart attack" 2 weeks before the premier of Eyes Wide Shut - one of those heart attacks that happen to completely healthy people that come out of nowhere with no prior history of heart problems...

[Just_come_back_to_reality]

Now this is something I clicked on as soon as I saw the Thumbnail/Title. Way to go, gents.

[captainphoenix]

Harry's audio boomered? WE'RE SO BACK, BOIS!!!!

[davidszondy]

The irony is that Kubrick based his film on the American edition of the novel from which Burgess removed the final chapter because he couldn't be bothered to trim it down properly as the publisher requested. In the original British version, Alex does reform as he grows older and becomes a more or less respectable member of society, showing that reformation must come from within as an act of personal decision, not forced from the outside by coercion.

[DeflatingAtheism]

In Anthony Burgess’ original novel, Alex undergoes a treatment a final time, underlining the fact that he was only ever a rat in a maze. Without a spiritual grounding, society can only ricochet between anarchy and tyranny. Kubrick, on the other hand, takes the cautionary tale written by a Catholic, and recasts the protagonist as an existential hero (and existentialism was, of course, “still a hot thing at the time.”)

[ciadiac]

I truly beleive Kubrick is a bonafide genius. Like all great philosophers they follow a thread from the philosophers before them. He did it with visual art and left the interpretation to the viewer allowing us to reason his ideas for ourselves, something a truly great philosopher does. You only have to go to a DVD store and you still see his movies for sale. They have transcended through time over all the other efforts that have been made recently proving his art is truly great. I think it’ll still be a few more years before Kubrick will be truly celebrated for his utter genius.

[aggressivecalm]

In all seriousness, and frankness, how did an individual's diversity and inclusion become more important than capability, competency, and skillfulness? Let alone the most consequential element? Are human beings really that similar in their capability, competency, and skillfulness? And if so why do we need the appearance of diversity, over an individuals capacity to execute their responsibilities?

Calls for diversity and inclusiveness, (DEI, CRT) are calls for compliance, obedience, submissiveness, and failing.

[jasperswarp]

I wouldn’t say Billy-boy was in a Nazi gang, just potentially a different youth scene, much like mods and rockers.

[JadeRunner]

In Aliens Ripley's badassery is motivated by her desire to protect Newt. Prior to finding Newt Ripley is reluctant to take any kind of charge of the situation.

Aliens worked because Ripley's actions are, when all is said and done, _maternal_ in nature in that movie. Newt fills the void left by Ripley's deceased daughter and Ripley becomes Newt's surrogate mother. A real woman will do absolutely anything to protect her child, and that's why Aliens works: because Ripley's actions are believable.

[helaughs]

If you want to understand Kubrick you have to correct the way you understand Orwell. Orwell was not desperately shouting "look out!" He was gleefully whispering, "it's too late."
All the world is a stage.

[AlienBigCat]

I think JG Ballard's urban trilogy is complimentary to this discussion --
Crash.
High Rise.
Concrete Island.
& if not, read them anyway..

[vmizzell]

Don't forget that "Eyes Wide Shut" is an adaptation of "Traumnovelle" by Arthur Schnitzler.

[stevesmith]

All older people can see the results of social engineering every time we drive. Until 1950 to 1990, there wasn't any road anywhere that didn't have peel out marks on it, and now there isn't any anywhere. I'm not saying it a loss or an improvement, but there is a very distinct change in social mindset. Even if the change is an improvement, the repression may lead to a bigger backlash later. As Cosmo Kramer once said, "Serenity now, insanity later."

[Bikewithlove]

She’s right - Stanley was putting forth what was already there. Terry Gilliam said it about Brazil - when he was asked where he got his ideas for the movie he said it was what he sees everywhere here and now. These are only ‘futuristic’ according to the brainwashed. A Clockwork Orange and Brazil were only about ‘the future’ in terms of coming to awareness (in the future) of how the world really is.

[asimplewanderer]

Culture changes but how much of that change is manufactured