Juggernaut VS Juggernaut! Trinnov Altitude 32 VS Anthem AVM90 AV Processor

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Binaural sound demo comparison between the Trinnov Altitude 32 versus Anthem AVM90. Using my 7.2.4 Sonus Faber home theater.

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00:00 - Intro
01:14 Price
02:05 The Differences
03:33 REW Measurement Comparison
04:52 Some Physical Differences
05:54 Binaural Sound Demos
15:05 Sound Quality

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Much respect for putting this video together ... Im looking at the Trinnov16 With The Avm90 close 2nd

AllAccessConstruction
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Excellent work. Ive been trying to find out how Anthem and ARC calibration sound and you just delivered it. Thanks

mattgiunt
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Great video. Would love to hear more comparisons. Both units sounded 👌

iamnojedi
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Great review and was on my mind as fair as future upgrade path goes. Decided to buy the Anthem MRX1140 instead of Denon. Will be upgrading from 7.2 yamaha, so noticeable jump. And seperates are are dream for now. Cheers

JohnWickFour
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Great demo. I agree with your synopsis. 👍🏾

BoyGenius-
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Great video as always brother. I always listen to your comparisons with my eyes closed with quality headphones. I didn't notice much difference in the video comparisons, the area I noticed was the first part of the Fury demo when it did the 360° pan amd the Trinnov was a little cleaner but sounded like it had far more speakers than the Anthem. The bass was the same amd maybe the Anthem was a touch deeper in one of the clips. After you mentioned the bubbles, I listened again with my eyes open and definitely noticed rhe bubbles. That taught me I should do a visual test after the blind test.

The main differences came with the music. The second comparison of the Gentleman track was night and day, the clap sounds on the Trinnov had so much more depth and almost a ring to it that was nowhere to be heard with the Anthem. This track didn't have a ton of layers in it but you could hear things on Trinnov that were not there on the Anthem. The Jazz demo took it to another level, the sound was so much richer and detailed, over all, the biggest separation differences were in the higher frequencies. A comparison in classical music would separate these processors even further. I would love to hear the layers of an orchestra on the Trinnov.

My conclusion is that of you primarily watch movies, you won't notice any difference as you are watching the movie and not focused on the sound, even then, unless you have $100k speakers, you won't be missing anything.

If most of your listening was music, you will notice a difference, depending on genre. Classical and jazz will have the biggest improvements as well as layered EDM. Classic rock with certain groups with higher registers like Aerosmith or BeeGees you will have a richer sound.

I am a movie guy and even if I had the budget, I wouldn't I would not uograde an AVM 90 to thr Trinnov as that extra $16k USD can be used to improve many other areas of a theater room first. That would probably have to be my last gear upgrade, but even then, there is always a better projector or MadVR that would give you a better upgrade.

Thx for the great comparison. A thought I had, probably since I listen to the demos with my eyes closed for a more blind test, would adding a little test tone for a gear change affect the quality of your production? When there isba longer clip, it is sometimes hard to tell when there is a gear switch which sometimes has me peeking only to see no change has been made. Just a thought and probably only pertains to a handful of people

shaneducholke
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Love the new microphone, brings your demos to a completly new level!!

shaneducholke
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This deserves a thumbs up from every viewer!

XudenGroupLLC
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Thank you for your continues posting of those comparison videos. Such a shame nobody else is doing it, at least not at the scale you do. They are of great value (if not taken too literally for what one hears when listening to those comparisons).

One of your vids was actually the final straw that pushed me over the edge to buy my current pre. and it was the only one where SQ differences are very obvious to hear for me (XMC-2 vs AVM 70). Rest of them seem to be much more difficult to discern (not impossible, but more difficult).

I always listen to your comparisons on few systems I have at home and they sound different on each system :), leading quite often to different conclusions or no conclusions depending on the system in use). That of course highlights the obvious and why I said in the opening paragraph that the comparisons cannot be taken too literally as there are (too) many variables in the chain. To name a few: master volume and mic gain settings on your end -> scene selection -> mic -> YT compression -> playback system on viewer end.

But even it makes hard to ultimately judge the sonic performance of the devices it certainly allows, to some extent, to judge some of the differences which can be heard on the recording.

And now about the comparisons. About the ones I was mostly interested in. Maybe you can let me know what are your thoughts about the below:

1. For me XMC-2 is clearly superior vs AVM70 in your comparison. It is very easy to hear in your vid how much more spatial and low level resolution there is in XMC-2 vs AVM70, which sounds like "looking through murky glass" in comparison. XMC-2 vs AVM70 is the easiest differences to discern among all the different pairs compared IMHO.

2. In AV70 vs AVM90 vid you say that the difference is quite stark but it is not so clear to hear in the recording. Yes the difference can be heard but it is splitting hairs (don't get me wrong - I am not saying it is like that IRL, just what video depicts on my end with my systems).

3. Extrapolating from 1 and 2 it seems that XMC-2 has a potential to sound better than, or on similar level to AVM90 as the difference I can hear on the vids is much bigger between XMC-2 and AVM70 than AVM70 and AVM90 (and you also gave a sonic win to XMC-2 vs AVM70).

4. And finally Trinnov is mostly clearly better sounding for both cinema and music than AVM90 but again the difference is not as big as between XMC-2 and AVM70, although bigger than between 70 and 90 comparison (I am talking about recordings only not actual gear as this I would not dare to judge by only listening to YT videos as per previous explanation). Actually the difference between AVM70 and XMC-2 is so big on the recording that it makes me wonder if there was an error of procedure of some sort when recording AVM70 leading to botched recording?

Trinnov has "much" deeper look into recordings. More finesse and subtleties are drawn out. It can be clearly heard, to me, on music reproduction where it's top end is sweet versus etched with AVM90, but of course, not only on music.

Anyway I think the strongest point of T is its Optimizer system, which really allows to maximize (or totally break) how your room sounds :). But at this price point great base performance is a must and it seems that T is not disappointing. Still as it is only a PC there is so much left on the table if a dedicated well designed hardware could be used instead of run of the mill noisy PC components.

Can you comment on my deductions, which were extrapolated from comparing your different comparisons. It would be very interesting if you could put a weight to it from perspective of a person who listened them live and say for example, this is about right or that did not sound like that IRL etc.

Thanks

sebna
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Great video man! I absolutely love my AVM90 and have no desire to jump up to the Trinnov. This is always a budget decision though…
Can’t wait to see a review video of those new JTR subs!

scottt
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very nice review. you shuld review the lyngdorf products as well.

מיקמקיםלאביא
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I have a trinnov altitude 16 wich is haf the price of altitude 32 it sound the satly you could look at the cheaper option and upgrade from anthem avm90 to trinnov altitude 16 instead.

jamesmccallum
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Really great you went through the trouble of borrowing a Trinnov Altitude to make this video. I'm with you on it's price being out of range for me. I'll probably end up replacing my Marantz AV7702mkii with an Anthem AVM70 as even the 90 is a little steep for me.

GunnyPhillips
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Anthem is holding is down very nicely.

My choice I'm so motivated to buy one thanks for this.

alphaplus
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Hey Bear! Great Video as always. I see you still have the Sonus Farber Sonetto's. I would love to see a Comparison shoot out between these three, Arendal 1723 THX and the
Martin Logan Motion XT F200. I heard the Martain Logan in North Carolina at the Audio advice Expo and they were amazing, Your Thought's between the three, Thank you as always.

tomb
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Thanks for this video. I just scored a pair of almost unused Legacy Audio Aeris at a killer price and am looking for a good processor that can correct in the frequency, phase and time domain. The Wavelet 2 is out of the race for me as it doesn't allow for manual PEQ from what I can tell. Have you ever had a chance to hear one of the Lyngdorf MP processors? My understanding is that Peter Lyngdorf follows a different philosophy, allowing speakers to retain their characteristic sound by focusing on correcting for the room. That sounds great on paper but I'd be curious what you were using with your Legacy speakers?

getdealtwithquick
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Very cool! that must have bene fun getting to demo the Trinnov in your own space.

hifihometheater
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Trinnov was a tab clearer, and the highs are on another level, but for the price... not worth it over the Anthem. Great video, SIR!

ronj
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Thanks for the video! Now I love more my AVM90.

JesusGutierrez-prpo
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Great video! Must have been a lot of work to set up and compare the systems but really appreciated on this end.

Digging the comparison product concept 👍

jesseaylward