The Forgotten Members of Seventeen

Seventeen was supposed to have a very different line-up originally! So what happened to the 4 members who ended up leaving the group prior to their debut?

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[Mrs.Chwe]

Samuel was never forgotten. He's still close with his hyungs.

[aidentan]

Minghao and Jeonghan were kinda the last one to joined SEVENTEEN so it's for the best because can you imagine SEVENTEEN without Jeonghan? I can't!

[friendsfriends]

If Jang doyoon wouldn’t have left back then, he would’ve been the leader. Which is unimaginable for me. Scoups is a great leader, he loved the group so much that he didn’t leave even after such a long trainee period. I don’t want to criticise others it’s just that current Seventeen is beautiful.

[carolinadarwin]

Samuel got me into kpop, it's so sad that he left, but i was more sadder that his father died after being killed by his friend, thank God that he's getting better and going to start singing again

[Mika-uxoj]

The happiness I saw Samuel have when Minghao and Jun reunited on that one chinese survival show was SO nice.

[SHOSH]

Samuel is never forgotten, I feel bad that his mother didn’t allow him to debut with the rest of the boys but I get her he was very young at the time but at the same time she allowed him to be a trainee at that age. Samuel and the rest of seventeen are thankfully still friends, coups even went to see him during Produce 101 and they said that they are still in touch with each other. Samuel was doing great but he kinda shut off after what happened to his father. Hopefully he is happy and doing well

[izzyisme]

SVT was just destined to be OT13, i saw glimpses of the guys mentioned her in "The Green Room" but never got interested in any of them, and Samuel was just a fetus back then so its unthinkable he would've been allowed to debut so young

[romyisnothere]

i can't imagine SEVENTEEN with other members or without the current members SEVENTEEN is SEVENTEEN ❤

[agoj]

Kim Samuel's hair in that rap duo is WILD. Hope for the best for him, he's been through a lot.

[WhippedForJeonJungkook]

The members were meant to be, that is Seventeen is Seventeen, good luck to the others who didn't make it, success will come to you if you work hard, have the talent and with a little bit of luck you need to be successful

[Debs-ez]

l'll never forget baby Samuel who entered at only 10yrs old, momma thought it' s too soon but he continued outsides Pledis with music... he also became a winner at a Chinese show that Jun & the8 part took. They were so happy to meet him again & at a Chinese show of all places. He came out on top ❤❤❤❤

[Sethen-vwhj]

The relationship between Seventeen and Samuel is nust wholesome ✨🤍

[Miingizz]

finding out one of my fav actor was supposed to debut in one of my fav groups is a whole new level of crazy

[Maria-edjo]

Man time flies.. I was 13 years old back when I was watching the seventeen diary’s and remember those members. Now I’m 23 lol damn. But it’s been fun to see seventeen grow!

[coolgirl]

Here's the thing, there was never a time in Seventeen's predebut history when they had 17 guys in the line up. They were called Seventeen since the moment they were announced and their show premiered as 17TV and at the time they were only 11 members. And since then, the line up changed 7-8 times and throughout all those changes there never was a single time when Seventeen actually had 17 members. In the end, they did have 4 guys who were part of the pre-debut line up at one point or another, making a total of 17 guys who were known to have been in consideration for the group, but again, never at the same time.

Honestly, people need to drop the whole "there used to be Seventeen but some left before debut" reasoning because it's not entirely true. Yes the 4 guys were part of their predebut history but they're not who made Seventeen who they are today. Seventeen debuted with 13 members, 3 units, as 1 team and to this day they are exactly that. The 13 members that we know ARE who made Seventeen. The fact that we're going in to the groups' 9th year and people are still bringing up the predebut members as if they are Seventeen, idk, it just feels unfair to the 13 guys who've worked hard to make a name out of Seventeen.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should erase Samuel, Mingming, Dongjin, and Doyoon from history or never talk about them, because they themselves deserve to do what they love and achieve their dreams too. Idk how to explain it, I just never seen people so fixated on a group's predebut line up and members the way they do with Seventeen. Like, people don't go around calling (G)Idle's Miyeon a "former BlackPink member" because she was part of the group predebut but ultimately didn't debut with them.

[svt_luv]

Predebut members* . The title makes it seems like they left seventeen

[Lina-udsq]

I’m a predebut fan but even then there were even older fans than me, and amongst the older fans, there was a story that Doyoon promised Seungcheol they would debut together and he will be there for him. However he broke that promise and left seventeen instead by saying he wants to be an actor which lead to Seungcheol being the leader. Older fans said that Seungcheol felt betrayed by that and event angry. Years later, after Seventeen became successful, this Doyoon who supposedly left SVT to be an actor appeared on a reality show and tried to market himself as a “supposedly SVT member.” Story is that it pissed Scoups so much he wrote that song mentioned here.

There were accounts before that even after some members left pre-debut, there was still communication between them of some sort. There were accounts before of some members still having connection with Mingming and Samuel remains well loved. But all rumors about Doyoon’s relationship with SVT were strained. I remember there was a time the fandom refused to acknowledge him at all as ever being part of SVT and he pissed a lot of older fans when he appeared in that trainee show.

[SuperHeedictator]

Nah, even just watching his photos that Doyoon wouldn't be a good leader for SVT and surely wouldn't be able to become the General leader of SVT and Carats. I'm glad that we have SVT with our 13 members, they are perfect and that's just a match made in heaven

[justadrianalima]

Now the title is very wrong. how are they “forgotten members of seventeen” when they were never official members of svt? They were just trainees who left. not members at all. the svt members became official members when they were given their rings.

[nfy-xjdb]

Samuel is the one person that's never forgotten by carats or svt.