MAGNUS THE RED - Crimson King | Warhammer 40k Lore

For this Transmission of Traitor Primarch we shall Elucidate the deeds of the Crimson King: Magnus the Red.

Raised on the world of Prospero, Magnus would by tutored by the world's senior Magister: Amon and swiftly become the most powerful Psyker known to his homeworld.

His thirst for knowledge unquenchable, Magnus' deeds would forever damn Humanity to endure the malevolence of the Warp and it's foul influence...

00:00 Introduction
010:50 Sorcerer Protoge
03:14 Emancipation of Prospero
05:30 The Thousand Sons
07:18 The Council of Nikea
09:47 Ruin of the Webway Project
11:58 Prospero Burns
14:24 Pawn of Change
16:10 Siege of Terra
17:47 Confronting the Emperor
19:28 Rubric of Ahrimna
20:58 Vengeance of Magnus
23:20 Clash of Avenging Sons
24:18 Conclusion

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It is my duty to retell the stories and chronicles of the glorious Imperium of Mankind.

Via voxlink and transmission I shall send my tales through the Warp in the hopes that the Imperium might hear of it's forgotten histories and Remember it's sacred past.

For in the grim darkness of the far future there is only War.

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[Synthonym]

While Magnus did nothing wrong, it's also fair to say he didn't do anything right either

[ethancrawford]

The two most important moments of Magnus life occurred on Terra. The first was the Emperor advising Magnus unthenize his Sons because of a genetic fault, the "flesh change." Magnus refused and sold a piece of his soul to Tzeentch. Which manifested as a loss of an eye. The second was during the seige of Terra. The Emperor offered Magnus power, unimaginable and unlimmited access to the warp, and a litteral throne! All Magnus had to do is abandon his Sons. If Magnus was arrogant, selfish, and power hungery above all else he would have taken either of those offers. Magnus only sold his soul for other people, NOT himself!This is why the meme says "Magnus did nothing wrong".

[DragonboneWarhammer]

I strongly believe that the eye of Magnus in Skyrim's mage guild quest is Magnus the red's lost eye.

[peterlepper]

Whether or not he "did wrong, " Magnus gets *way* more shit than he deserves. He was from the beginning a fundamentally good dude who only ever wanted the best for humanity and for his Legion. Let's run down some basic facts:

- Magnus required and encouraged his sons to pursue peacetime arts as well; Ahriman, for example, grew grapes and made wine. To my knowledge, the Ultramarines are the only other Legion who mandated this sort of thing.
- Magnus also mandated that each member of the Thousand Sons spend time attached to a different Legion, to learn from them. This shows a startling humility that stands in stark contrast to the arrogance that everyone always loves to accuse him of.
- Magnus was personal friends with like half the Primarchs, loyalist and traitor. In particular he was drawn to fellow outcasts like Lorgar, or loners like the Khan. Sanguinius (who everyone acknowledges as the best boy) loved him, and stood by him at Nikaea. Vulkan also was a very close friend of his.
- Magnus was the only Primarch, *on either side, * to ever seriously attempt a non-violent solution to the Heresy (by projecting himself into Horus' mind to try to save him from Chaos).
- As far as his biggest mistake goes, breaking the wards around the Webway project, everyone always seems to forget that he encountered *the same kind of barrier* when he tried to warn Horus (specified in False Gods). It was perfectly reasonable of him to assume that these barriers were created by the enemy to try to stop him from delivering his messages. The being that he accepted help from in breaking the barrier was the same being who "saved" his Legion from the flesh-change. Ultimately he was manipulated into making this mistake, but when viewed from his perspective, it's more reasonable than it seems.
- He was so loyal to the Imperium that, at least in theory, he was willing to sacrifice his own Legion to avoid weakening the Space Wolves for the war to come. Tzeentch offered to destroy the fleet before it reached Prospero, but Magnus said no. Let me re-iterate that; he was willing to save *his own executioners* for the good of the Imperium. It was only when he was confronted with the reality of his planet destroyed and his sons butchered that his will broke and he came down to fight.
- He literally had to be browbeaten by Lorgar into joining the war, and basically only did so because it was the only way for his Legion to survive.
- During the Siege of Terra, while infiltrating the Imperial Palace, he blew his own cover and risked detection in order to save a bunch of Imperial civilians from a phosphex bomb. Again; he *risked jeopardizing his mission* to *save "enemy" civilians.* Ask yourself how many of the other Primarchs had that kind of respect for human life.
- During his fight with Vulkan beneath the Palace (the FIRST one, Echoes of Eternity doesn't exist and is basically character assassination written by someone who has literally gotten into Twitter beef with people about the "Magnus did nothing wrong" meme), Vulkan himself admits that if he were in Magnus' position, he would not have taken the deal that the Emperor offered.

I will fight for my boy until the end of time. He made mistakes, but he was a genuinely good person who always did his best.

[PrimetimeD]

See, if the Emperor had that whole golden throne conversation with Magnus, say, right after Nikea, I firmly believe things would have been different. If he had even taken him aside and said, "Hey, I know that whole gathering was rough, but I have plans for you. See, there's gonna be this throne..." etc. Also something like, "By the way, there are literal evil gods in the warp and that's why I'm warning you to be super careful."

[jeremychristiansen]

The fall of each traitor primarch has some notes of tragedy, but Magnus' story is particularly bitter. In truth, he wanted to further humanity and serve by his father's side, but his pride and insatiable hunger for knowledge were his undoing. I can only imagine what humanity's webway could have allowed for, and what the 15th may have grown into were things any different.

[ULTIMATZEKROM]

On one hand, I feel sorry for Magnus for his fall, as he truly did have good intentions.

On the other hand, he was the architect of his own downfall. He was told time and again of the dangers of the Warp, ignored the warnings, and found out just how right those warnings were. Everything that happened to him was his own fault.

The path to hell truly is paved with good intentions, and Magnus is the poster boy of that phrase in 40k.

[mikeylejan]

Magnus is an example that intelligence does not equate to wisdom.

[LxR]

The intro got me thinking what if we could have gotten Christopher Lee to voice a cgi Magnus in a live action Warhammer movie. RIP to the legend. You will be missed 😔

[jrr]

You know what Magnus forgot? "The warnings come *AFTER* The spells l."

[joeford]

Seriously, if The Emps didn't treat him like shit and just reminded him to be a little bit more humble and tell him that it takes time to master his power. Maybe he wouldn't be a tragic figure. He was beloved by The Hawk Boy and The Khan

[inquisitorgarza]

In a vacuum Magnus would prove to be correct in his viewpoint that humanity will become a psychic race similar to the Eldar, however he lived in a Galaxy that had Immaterial Predators that will prey on his noble viewpoint and egg him to look deeper in the Warp to hook him into their gaping maw.

[jonathanathor]

It would have been wise if the emperor had taken magnus to aid in the webway project.

[darko-man]

As well as pride, which people point out, Magnus’ final undoing is a love for his people and sons - he would have let himself be destroyed if not for that love and he would have turned back to the light of the Emperor if not for that love.

[Methuslah]

The way the Emperor handled Magnus is like. Imagine leaving a child unsupervised in a firework factory, and making them super promise to not touch anything. Of course, the child will start touching things out of sheer curiosity, and the factory will explode.

At the Council of Nikaea, the Emperor could’ve been like “hey Magnus wanna help me with this special project?” and boom. Problem solved. Magnus doesn’t fall to chaos. The Emperor just refused to keep his kids in the loop.

[mikemoore]

At his core, the Emp is human. Flawed. Prone to errors of judgement. Many such moments over the history of this universe.

[Voodoowolfe]

GW had a unique opportunity to make Magnus, and several other primarchs, likeable/relatable/tragic figures. But have, time-and-again, pushed the 'evil cause they evil' narrative. Imagine if Magnus really did nothing wrong(tbh GW retconned it so he did A LOT wrong)? Imagine if loyal primarchs were not as noble as they were proposed?

[akumaking]

It’s hard to unhear Zegram as Magnus the Res.

[benp]

Whether or not he “did wrong” you gotta respect a man who’s willing to rock the ‘nipple tusk’ look

[nonimport-ante]

This is what i was talking about on the Angron video. The Emp had Magnus's DNA, he used it to create the gene seeds, he could have made a clone (keep in mind that there were years between Magnus's message and the siege), instead he tried to bond a piece of his soul to a gene son to create a substitute. there is a nonphysical component to the Primarchs. and whatever it was, was used up. Thats why when he saw how messed up Kurze and Angron where he couldn't just make new ones. I choose to believe the resource was a part of his own being. And this is why he seems to just not understand some of his sons so often.