From the Beginning to Now | Lawrence Krauss | EP 182

This episode was recorded on May 7th 2021

On this episode of the Jordan Peterson Podcast, Jordan is accompanied by American-Canadian theoretical physicist and cosmologist Lawrence M. Krauss. Throughout his career, Dr. Krauss has made remarkable contributions to the field of research on particle physics and cosmology. Dr. Krauss formerly worked at Yale University, Case Western Reserve University, and Arizona State University. Dr. Krauss also founded ASU’s Origins Project, a non-profit corporation that holds public panel discussions on science, culture, and social issues. Some of his work includes popular books such as The Physics of Star Trek and A Universe from Nothing.

Jordan and Lawrence sit down to discuss a variety of topics in the mind-boggling world of quantum physics. They spend time discussing generated models of the beginning of our universe, the lawbreaking complexities of quantum physics, the ramifications related to entropy, the usefulness of the scientific method, as well as the instinctive behaviour for religious compulsion among human beings.

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[00:00] Introduction.
[2:00] Jordan kicks things off by positing a description of entropy for discussion relating to complexity in systems of matter, time, and energy.
[13:00] Krauss expounds on the value of overcoming failure.
[16:00] Peterson prompts Krauss to expand on times in his career where the redirection of an experiment led to incredible discovery that was not related to his original intention or hypothesis.
[21:30] The science of cosmology, taking the listeners back to the beginning of our universe through theoretical models.
[27:00] The size of the universe, is it a reasonable question to ask?
[41:00] Exploring the concept of time relative to change, space, and matter.
[44:30] Talking about the creation of the universe looking at matter versus antimatter distribution.
[56:00] The current picture (based on models of the matter and antimatter at the beginning of the universe).
[1:01:00] The ability of the laws of physics to fluctuate at different energy levels (scale, size). The formation of all the foundational elements in existence.
[1:10:00] Quantum fluctuation, quantum mechanics, quantum ground state, the resonant wavelength of electrons, and much more.
[1:20:30] Lawrence Krauss gives his summarization of the interpretation of quantum mechanics and complexity.
[1:25:30] Debating meaning, truth, reality, and reason in the universe. The complex and strained relationship between the scientific method and religious instinct towards our existence.
[1:43:00] Jordan asks Lawrence to comment on the religious instinct removed by modern atheists popping up again in a politicalized form of secular humanism.

#Physics #Religion #LawrenceKrauss

Jordan B Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist, and the author of the multi-million copy bestseller 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, #1 for nonfiction in 2018 in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, the Netherlands, Brazil and Norway, and slated for translation into 50 languages.

Dr. Peterson has appeared on many popular podcasts and shows, including the Joe Rogan Experience (877, 958, 1006), The Rubin Report, H3H3 (#37), and many more. Dr. Peterson’s own podcast has focused mainly on his lecture series, covering a great deal of psychology and historical content.

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[chrissimpson]

"Education shouldn't be based on answers, it should be based on questions." - Lawrence Krauss

Very well said!

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[nik]

These kind of discussions are desperatly needed these days.

[CaptainBlaine]

Lawrence Krauss is one of my favorite educators because he (usually lol) looks like he enjoys it. Some very intelligent people get frustrated or annoyed with JP’s questions but I think to a certain extent JP is asking because he wants to learn. And Lawrence is happy to indulge and share his knowledge. Love it.

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[darthwrath]

Lawrence Krauss and Brian Greene are the best theoretical physicist I've ever listened to as a layman who never even took 1 minute of physics class. They let you speak and complete your sentences before correcting you. Genuinely interested to know your questions.

Never treat you like an idiot. Which is why I'll always listen to any videos of em. Just found this one, about 57 minutes in and it felt like 5 minutes. You have no idea how hard it is for me to spend more than 10 minutes on a video that's not related with comedy/satire. My ADD seems to just vanish when I listen to Lawrence, Brian, Dawkins and sometimes even Jordan.

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[BandasPalette]

Wow, the more I learn the more I know I will forever be a student of life.

Great conversation!

[nelsonang]

wow... when there’s humility, there’s beauty! extraordinary men... thank you!

[rictormantas]

I hope that these two brilliant minds come together more. This is one of the best learning experiences I’ve ever had

[Gennys]

What a DELIGHTFUL conversation Jordan and Lawrence had. I can't wait for more conversations on this level from both.

[graemejack]

Fascinating conversation. I love watching Lawrence talk because he's always so energetic and enthusiastic. It was awesome to see Jordan matching that enthusiasm throughout the discussion.

[em]

I need to watch this about 5x; sooo much incredible discussion/info here. Impossible to absorb in one listen! Love the energy here; one of my favorite JP podcasts so far!

[brendabarbosa]

I had never heard of Dr Krauss before and after hearing this discussion, I’m obsessed! I want to read all his books and listen to his ideas. He’s so easy to understand and follow, despite the ideas and discoveries being so complex. Plus, he just seems like a nice guy. He and Jordan together are such a good combination for interesting and provocative discussion. Thank you for doing this and enriching my understanding of the Universe. I could listen to them talk for 2 weeks straight!! 😝