Liberal Elites Will Create Conditions for Another Trump – Thomas Frank (3/3)

[Dcioutsourcing]

Brilliant discussion. Educational, this should be discussed in every classroom, high school and college
:). Lets rebuild a Populist Humane society, Bravo Thomas y Paul!

[johnsiman]

Hark, fellow citizens! Hear Tom’s “joyous message unto the world” (as he puts it). For this is Tom Frank at his very best — this means that if you do not understand what he is saying here, you do not and cannot understand what is unfolding now in the USA! Tom has spoken!!

[totonow]

Frank, the most optimistic pessimist I've ever heard in Paul's low key smokey dark back room. I love it.

[MortalWeather]

Excellent! Everyone should listen to this. Thanks, guys.

[djohnson]

Great to have you back Paul! (and Thomas!)

[timmanion]

Sadly, the fact that Hofstadter’s bogus critique of Populism was definitively refuted by careful scholars means nothing compared to the fact that his premises were found useful by BOTH Left and Right opinion makers in turning working class Americans against one another.

[DonDeering]

If Sanders really understood that a movement was necessary, he would have left the Democratic Party and led a section of people out of the party. That would have been the core of a movement. I think he understands that he wants to be a senator better.

[bschmok]

I love Thomas Frank! What an illuminating, humane, funny character. I wish he were appreciated more widely for the voice of reason and morality that he is

[nemoest]

Jeremy Corbin anti Semitic slander 70 years before Corbin (the historian (Hofstadter?) writing the false history of populism). Sounds similar to me!
Love Paul Jay by the way. So happy to hear from him again.

[dammitolmg]

These newspeople, yes. Keep it coming.

[sheilarossini]

Barack Obama was really the straw that broke the camel's back. But - we all move forward with grace and resilience.

[awuma]

Strong statistical psephological evidence for Frank's thesis regarding the elitist transformation of centre-left parties is provided by Thomas Piketty (March 2018), "Brahmin Left vs Merchant Right: Rising Inequality & the Changing Structure of Political Conflict (Evidence from France, Britain and the US, 1948-2017)". This long paper can be found via Google.

[Larkinchance]

In the age of Trump, people are depressed because they're not in show business...

[alanmann]

Great. I wondered where Paul Jay had gone.

[kirchen]

Hofstadter's error???? Failure of the elites? Error and failure can describe his choosing of words, not what it's intentionally done by the elites. Having said that, the podcast was not that bad, just a little frustrating. Like the analysis news! Keep the good work!

[klubsvetnikov]

If Sanders likes Biden, it only shows how naive we were supporting Bernie.

[deadirony]

Capitalism, conformity, totalitarianism and the societal effect of profit and incentive.
Like Alexander Buzgalen pointed out 😒

[johncale]

Jimmy Dore refuses to have Thomas Frank on his show - he does not understand how someone can study the problem so carefully and still vote for corporate democrats like Clinton and Biden.

[tarnopol]

Hofstadter is a lot more subtle than Frank would have you think: there is indeed a paranoid style in American politics, and not just on the right. The mix you need is both top-down and bottom-up reform: each mode helps to keep the other honest.