🔴 Leica M11: I WAS WRONG..

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Leica M11: My top choice for travel and street photography - Testing the M11 in California

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Matt Osborne

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😈😈😈If thou succumbest to the temptations of obscenely rich Americans' private jets and Porsches, verily shalt thou also succumb to their favorite piece of photo jewelry. Yes, the people who use their Ms mostly with an EVF would be better off photographically using an SL-series camera (or even, gasp, a different brand) but for them being seen with the M is all about looks, innit?... a Q3 isn't a bad stand-in, but an SL is just too big and blobby to be truly stylish.

Having said that, I would agree that for the person who has genuine application for a digital rangefinder camera, the M11 is the one that makes the most sense to buy. (I love my Pixii A2572 but the range/viewfinder and lens-mounting flexibility just aren't in the same league.) Still, your observations re electronic-shutter distortion are a bit off-putting. I have a lot of experience with electronic shutters, on the Pixii (which has no mechanical shutter at all) and on various Fujifilm cameras, and normally the only time you'd expect to see that much distortion is with fast panning or fast-moving subjects... it's VERY puzzling in photos like your examples, which seem to show subjects that are almost completely stationary. To me it looks like a readout-timing issue and would merit sending the camera back with a terse "WTF?" note.

jlwilliams

Not only size but I’ve decided no more ASPH lenses for me. The perfect daily carry lens is between the size of a v4 35mm Summicron and the 50 Summicron v5.

All lenses I love are non-ASPH lenses. They’re compact and they give you a beautiful image.

Now lenses have to be super corrected and big. They just keep getting bigger and bigger. See the new 50 Summilux. It even looks ugly.

Asphericalized and super APOchromatized to see every single pore from wide open to f22 to give you the most perfect image ever in history.

It’s absolute insanity. I lasted a couple of months with the APO-Lanthar 50 and sold it. It’s like listening to a one-note song.

Somehow YouTube got into people’s heads and now everyone thinks “well if I have a 60MP camera I HAVE to have the most super perfect lenses because the other lenses won’t “resolve my sensor” and I’m missing out. Who puts these stupid ideas into peoples heads? I have an M-11 so I have to now go out and buy all these new lenses too! I have to resolve my sensor. 😅 Craziness.

Leica M’s were always designed to be small portable things. And they were never supposed to be in a spec race. Ah well.

As for the M11, I personally don’t like it. I like my M10R Black Paint. Brass. Beautiful. I don’t care for the new features. The battery I just put one in my pocket. The M10R is my last camera body. I don’t really care about cameras anymore. It does everything I need it to do.

The only one upgrade that I would’ve cared to see was the mechanical shutter to have 1/8000. I think that’s a better upgrade than an ES.

When I go out is my M10R BP with the v5 50 Cron and that’s it. Nothing on my camera. I use a pouch when I keep it in the car. Not even a bag. If I bring a bag to travel I use a wrist strap.

I also put an extra battery and a lens cloth in my pocket and off I go.

Also the 40MP color sensor in the M10R is a pretty special sensor only found on that particular camera. It’s beautiful and I think 40MP is the perfect compromise for image size, file size and cropability. I don’t know when I will need a 60MP file. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I’m aware of the new off sensor meter. I don’t care for that either. I understand about this 60MP Sony sensor may be more color accurate. Again. Don’t care. It’s the same about the lenses. They all have their unique quirks and it’s about trying it slowly and see which quirks align with yours. Not about what is the most perfect. Because we aren’t perfect and the camera and images you make should be a reflection of your own imperfections.

carlosmcse

I think, or better, I know I don't agree for several reasons. First of all using the Noctilux for general shooting is nuts, second, the electronic shutter is abysmal, horror, third, if 40 MP is not enough you're just out of you mind. A Cron 50mm will do the trick anytime, or a 35mm, forget the behemoth Noctilux for sure. Fourth, the price of the M11 compared to other cameras with the same specs. At least the M10 brings something to the table, the M11 doesn't. The M11 is the "Leicaflex" syndrome of Wetzlar for this new era in photography.

euroyank

Sorry but the M11 is a half backed camera. Lots of reliability issues. Not to mention shutter lag. Hopefully M12 will be a flawless camera like M10.

alnico

Leica M11, too high price, no built-in EVF, no grip, so no thanx, I am very happy with my Sony Cameras which have the same sensor as the M11 !!!

cameraprepper

Aside from the hype: As you said many times before, the lens makes the picture, not the camera body. I couldn't care less about the Sony 60Mp sensor, the battery lasting a 1000 images (when was the last time you shot 1000 images in one setting?!) and the charging cable like on my phone. Im also not happy about the many reviews stating the freezing issues and other recurrent software glitches. This camera isn't ready yet.

ralph

Thank you for your always informativ and entertaining videos. I must although correct you opinion if one uses 75% of the time an EVF the SL would be a better choice.
I'm using at least 75% of the time an EVF but use it more as a waist level tool like the Hasselblad 500 Series. I find the lower Perspektive for my style of photography better. The adjustable EVF is much more flexible than the fixed viewfinder of the the M11 is much smaller to carry around.

byok.lighting

The M11 is a fine camera but with the all aluminium body not really apealing to me (keep in mind that only the top is made from brass on the silver Version). Also, the more Pixel a camera has, the more ridiculous the rangefinder becomes. And the evf on m don't work, at least for me. And at the end of the day, it's the photographer anyway

webersteve

As a daily Leica user, I am not convinced. There are just too many complaints of the M11 freezing up. There are color issues as well. Leica has top notch engineers but not so great software developers. I'm holding out for the M12 which, hopefully will have less features -and less Mp's.

ongxa

Best Kit is Leica CL plus Leica Sl2 (3 in March??) This is my kit. I travel with the CL and shoot portraits with the SL. Can use same lenses on both, thank you L mount. They are demonstrably superior to M mount lenses. The M mount time has passed, except for film. That will never pass.

annenominous

M11 is way too good, it has no imperfections, you can't change it in any way to make it look better. It has no character because it has no flaws...no thanks...will keep my grainy M9.

myoung

Unsure will this be a big project for u Matt..."Which lenses are excellent, v. good, or good, for M11?"

eugeneli

I’d rather buy the best glass. Oh wait, I did. I’ll upgrade when the M12 has ibis.

magiccarpetrider

Nice review. My journey into Leica started with a bargain SL which objectively is superb in every way and in my opinion is better built than the M11 and even not the original SL EVF is way better than the M11’s unit. However, I just had to have an M11 which is fabulous and special in a way that only an M can be. The EVF being tilt able is also very useful. I tend to use the camera without the EVF with a 50mm f1.2 Nokton most of the time. With the light black body it balances nicely and is still quite compact. The battery life is fantastic.

marcusoutdoors

Hi, There is a time lag between pressing the shutter and the photo taken compared to M10r, M10, M9, and M8 ... similar to SL with an M lens on it. I am able with M10R to focus on moving subjects better than is capable SL 601 with autofocus lenses. For me, this is a primary downside. Funny that nobody is discussing this as a step back. Lecia should change this in the future. Who cares if the M11 camera metering is more accurate than on M10... Would like to hear your opinion. BR Lovrenc

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