Archon Dendro 'NAHIDA' vs Archon Root JUEYUAN! Gameplay Comparison

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Archon dendro nahida vs Jueyuan archon Root with elemental skill and burst
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Dendro doesn't equal "plants". It is more "power of life" kind of thing, as was said in the Rukkhadevata cutscene. It is also more about Knowledge and Information, which is why her animation looks computer-like. She is the Avatar of Irminsul after all, and Irminsul is a giant database tree which is operating kinda like a computer...

_dragonflies_
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Basically, nahida is the dendro archon who posseses the power of dream, so its really different with the roots thing.

virk
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It is kind of sad/weird that Dendro doesn't look much like Plants. It's more just Green with Plant-like symbols.

joesunday
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I'll put it here since people are arguing about why dendro does not look like plants in any sort of way.
The power of dendro isn't to manipulate plants, it's more like the energy for life sustaining beings. It has something to do with the irmminsul. The irmminsul is a tree and it's responsible for major things in Teyvat. When the irmminsul was damaged it started to affect people's lives; people have been driven mad or got sick until they perished. It's hard to elaborate further but if you know the lore, you would know that dendro isn't just grass and nature; it's like the essence of life in Teyvat.

arlogood
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Dendro is the life energy, not "plants" like some people think

demiansalazarVT
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Aight as much as WW good at char animation. I feel like Genshin won this one honestly, nahida char and skill animation is just very good.

EphiphanyEphiphany
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I feel like it’s hard to judge these characters equally due to people knowing Nahida Better than a character who still has an unknown background. People will just subconsciously pick the design they’re used to looking at

Edit: I forgot to add I prefer Jueyuan’s design and gameplay style more than Nahida’s for the fact that she has more gameplay that looks thrilling in combat.

Casual_Genshin_Player
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I feel like they might have different personalities. Nahida is completely weak and not too strong on lore so she doesn't have any flashy attacks. I feel like the character from ww is more aggressive and kind( like candace) so her attacks looks "thorny"(idk her lore)



Edit: i meant nahida is weak physically for an archon.

M_K
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I guess they focused more on the "god of wisdom" side of her instead of the plant or botanical stuff of sumeru

orichalchumdemon
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Nahida has more style and I for one know her backstory while I dont for the other character. But I gotta say that those are sick animations for a style fighting game. I will definitely pull for "Root" was it?

istvancsanyi
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Yes I think it’s related with the archons? Venti’s element doesn’t look like wind it looks like voids and opening portals and sigils. Zhongli’s is just pillars and weird giant meteors, Raiden’s doesn’t look like electro it looks like a galaxy and tearing the space time. And Nahida’s is technological and looks like constellations

francismorales
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Nahida's design and abilities are more stylized and satisfying, but (i forget her name) the root chick's abilities look more fun and i like that instead of something "holographic" its effects are solid, rendered roots/vines, and her model looks better crafted.

Nahida gets style points but the other one gets gameplay points, im going with the latter, gameplay is equally important to me as style, and nahida doesnt look fun.

Verystoic
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Nahida is overall a better character, animations and gameplay really shows her character and all. And she also has a very good backstory, a loving god despite her people not loving her once. So its hard to not choose Nahida for me.

winshizuka
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I wish we had more characters with actual 'dendro constructs' like the travelers burst. Something like the dendro hilichurl priest's thorn walls or the lilipads in Sumeru Forest Region.

rendition
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Nahida skill animation wins but attack animation goes to Jueyuan

foxxy
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Jueyuan was revealed at WW's technical test in July 2022... I hope everyone watching this video to know this 😅 Of course they are both good girls

pmedlrk
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Using the concept of mana, mana is magic everyone is able to use as a pure form in most fantasies, being able to make mana blades, mana shields, telekinesis, etc and are considered "basic spells". Turning this mana into an element however is very different. With all of the elements so far there is justification for its manifestation due to the atoms and such in the air which _can_ be used to create things such as ice, fire, lightning, water, and wind is basically everywhere. With geo, rather than turning mana into rocks, they instead use it to control rocks along with forming their mana into a form (similar to the forming of a mana shield) that is basically solidified mana (like ningguang's jade shield, geo related shields in general and gorou's flags) with the solidity of rocks, maybe using layers upon layers of mana to create a sturdy, defensive, rock like shield. This mana barrier concept also explains why other elements can theoretically create a shield but not as strong as geo's. Earth exists all around, unlike plants, so for dendro to be used anywhere it will need different properties. If it was solely plants, using burning as an example, the easiest way to stop it is just to get the burning plant off of you. I think that dendro uses this "mana" in a form which sticks itself to the opponent with plant like properties while not exactly being plants, being highly combustible and creating "mana seeds" that obviously cannot become real trees. So, think of dendro like a "plastic film" of mana wrapped around you with the properties of plants. Like geo, it should be theoretically possible to use mana to control plants, like dendro samachurls do but it would probably be highly inefficient (can only be used to temporarily get in enemies' way as it's basically as weak as an actual plant as it is an actual plant). In this way, to use plants with dendro, it could only make sense if it was used solely by supports in a "grouping" or "blocking" situation. I am very sure that dendro CAN be used like this as theoretically, according to the manga, elements can be used however by the holder of it but the skills in game represents how they manifest their element to suit them best, however, since we have elements dedicated to grouping and blocking in game (anemo and geo) there was not really a need to actually use plants. As for Alhaitham's mirrors and Tighnari's arrows I beieve that it mixes that "plastic film" concept along with the "mana blade" concept, solidifying the mana into a form that can be used to attack and coating the wounds inflicted with this "plastic film" of mana to carry out reactions. The mana blade concept of soldifying mana to use elements in a more physical form can also be seen in Yanfei's charged attacks, Nahida's charged attacks (basically slamming a block of that "plastic film" over the enemy) or Noelle's ult which is the best possible example of a "mana blade". I will exempt archons from this rule as I would assume they are the only ones who can ACTUALLY create physical forms out of nothing (assuming the plane of euthymia wouldn't necessarily have the things needed to make lightning and the islands zhongli has seemingly made not out of any existing earth) and explains why Zhongli's "geo construct" would look somewhat different from the normal ones. Why doesn't Nahida use plants then? The reasoning I already stated, inefficient for actual damage. Venti? He's never been in a situation where I can comment on him as once again, air is everywhere, even in the depths of the chasm. Perhaps I can comment more on him when we can visit or get more info on "Mare Jivari" the "windless" land unless there is and I simply don't know.. I have a high suspicion I'll be called a white knight or d rider or "pressed" for writing all this but honestly, I enjoyed thinking about all of this as it also gave me a new personal understanding of magic physics in the game so writing this out was fun. For Genshin's sake, I'll just take it as "Mana can only be used through an intermediary such as visions in the manifestation it is given (elements)."

irunamisaki
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Well let me explains:
Nahida is the Archon of Denro - the power of plants is not works like you thinks. The Denro power in Genshin is like you call the life source of the plants around you, connect your mind with them, share the knowledge and evolve that life source in to the physical shape of your will-power to attack your ememy. Denro is the power of plants but it's not that kind of plant-plant. Even the Elemental Reactions around Denro is based on the ideaism of the power of Knowledge.

Ruen_Kafka
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The gameplay of the WW characters, in my opinion, is the best I have seen. The gameplay of Genshin is too static for my taste since it is based on reloading Ultimates and then shooting enemies. That they don't move, the WW gameplay looks more frenetic and also each character is unique and they don't resort to recycling attacks or abilities, Genshin players may not like to hear this But I'm going to say it, Genshin's gameplay is currently too boring, a change of scenery with WW will be good for them with better gameplay.

greyvoid
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If I remember correctly, Jueyan is supposed to be a 4 star (or whatever it's called in WW)

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