N8248K A-36 Bonanza 2 Fatalities N. CA 20 Oct 2023

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[mattresspolice]

The passenger in this aircraft was an old acquaintance of my family, 3 children. The pilot lost his wife to COVID in 2022, they had 3 kids. Rough day for the families. As a subscriber to Juan's channel I've been waiting for this video to shed some light on possible causes. Thank you, Juan.

[mikeng]

As an airline pilot I don’t give all that much thought to obstacles that would give a small aircraft private pilot pause. Icing? Fly right through it. Mountains? LNAV path around them and a crazy high climb rate. Wt and balance? Dispatch and load planning take care of that. I’ve always thought that if I ever start flying GA aircraft again that I’m going to have to have a very different mind set to do so safely.

[wadesaxton]

I remember the accident pilot and his brother when I was a line service tech fueling aircraft working on my instrument rating.
His father died in a Bonanza in UT scud running. He and his brother had a Piper Seneca they flew. The brother quit the regional airlines because he hated the lifestyle but the accident pilot flew Lears and then went to JetBlue. Both were accomplished pilots with extensive mountain flying experience. Sadly this appears to be CFIT with local unfamiliarity and low as contributors

[marksamuelsen]

I’m a 70 yo Veteran and retired Corporate Pilot. I truly enjoy your reporting. Keep up the great work you’re doing. Thanks

[klvkflyer]

Being a pilot in NorCal, fog is a constant 'obstacle' that you have to plan for. It often seems to move in faster than predicted

[digdug]

Been waiting for this Juan. I live in Round Valley I was out playing with my son when I saw what I thought was a structure fire in the foothills just west of the airport. We live about a mile from the airport. I only heard days later that it was an airplane that crashed. I've lived here for 15 years I've never seen a plane take off to the West. Land to the west take off to the east. There's been more air traffic here this year than any other year I've been here. Interesting to hear about the cheaper gas maybe that's the reason. Rest in peace. Thanks for your service Juan.

[kevinm.n.]

It can't be easy being the constant bearer of bad news, but I always rely on your expert and comprehensive coverage of these events.

[jeffersonstatecrash]

Thanks Juan. I’m local to the Humboldt area, Kym Kemp (Redheaded Blackbelt) is the go to source for news. Just don’t read the comment section. The sun wasn’t down at the time the call came in. It would have been right in the face of a westward departing pilot. Covelo is extremely remote even by local standards, and can be a lawless place. I have no doubt that the urge to leave right away would be pretty strong.

Flying around here you should 100% have a sleeping bag, tent, fire starter, and freeze dried food in a tote in your airplane. You will eventually end up spending the night somewhere remote with no services.

[Jmg]

Thank you Mister Juan Browne for all you do, I’m sure is exhausting talking about all the crashes and lost souls, but I’m sure your videos have saved lives when pilots think about what you teach on your videos, you might not know how much good you’re doing to the community but rest assure we see what you’re doing and im proud to be your subscriber and soon will be able to be contributing to your patron page

[williammcbane]

Juan, your explanations of stacking risks is, in my opinion, one of the most important messages you bring to your audience. 30-year GA pilot and Baron owner here, and that messaging is vitally important for all pilots - especially pilots of light twins. Please keep driving that message home. It will save lives.

[billtodd]

Ill never forget that airport. Back in 1967, I was flying with an old Marine Corps fighter pilot(A4 Skyhawk) in a Piper Tri Pacer and at about 100 feet off the runway, the prop split and he had to hard land it, but safely, and we called my wife in Auburn, and she came and picked us up. I can still visuilize the intent look on my buddy s face as he was doing all the checks of the flaps, etc. We love your channel. All the naval aviators would relate stories of how they had Bingo plans during night carrier operations in that area in case of bad fog. Bill

[jonmoceri]

Mobile phones are a dangerous distraction. One reason I quit my anesthesia career, was that too many RN's were on their phones in the pre-op, intra-op, and post-op environments.

Evidently asking nurses to pay attention to the patient and get off your phone is considered creating a "hostile work environment".

[AlexMalikin]

Super tragic. As you mentioned putting the phone away, I almost never use my phone even if I'm getting a phone call, message, email. Whatever the case maybe I'm 110% focused on the task at hand. I'm saying this as a 21 year old newly certificated private pilot. Thank you for the tips, Juan. Keep up the great work.

[richardpeugeot]

Juan, appreciate your analysis and insight as a local who knows the challenges that are present to all pilots. Vaughn was a fellow JetBlue pilot so this accident hits a little closer to home. Did some checking today with a local there and can confirm the weather at Round Valley was good and the accident occurred in daylight about 20 minutes before sunset. An ear witness reported that the engine sounded like a car when it is running out of gas, then heard the crash and subsequent explosion. Might have been yet another loss of thrust on takeoff scenario. We airline types have so many more safeguards to protect us in the 121 world!

[BoomVang]

Not just into rising terrain, but possibly descending air sliding down those slopes

[chrisw]

HI Mr. Browne. Thank you for more amazing content. I was stationed in the central San Joaquin Valley (Castle AFB) many years ago and remember the fog well. It moved quickly, stayed low and could bring viz to feet/zero in no time. I recall an event when a B-52 had to land, as it could not divert to Travis (reason unknown). We were on the flightline and were surprised to hear it land. It taxied right past us unseen. The crew chief went out, plugged headsets in and literally walked/talked the flight crew all the to engine shut off. We heard it and smelled it, never saw it. Awesome job to all involved!

[MrMann-qvcb]

I experienced the same type of accident in Round Valley flying a Cessna 150 2 passengers and full fuel load. Luckily I turned to the right instead of the left on a west departure. After refueling at round valley as you noted there was a slight head wind out of the west. I asked the lady that fueled the plane how do most pilots depart out over the valley downwind or into the hills. She exclaimed that in no way could she give me any advice. Even though I told her I was just trying to get a idea not a directive. Luckily I was able to stay abot 4 feet above the tree tops and had just enough climb to get to a right 180 and broke over a saddle where to hills meet to brake out over the hills and into the valley to gain altitude to clear the mountains. I refer this flight as the one where I fast a higher authority. AMEN!

[Vanjack]

I earned CFI couple months ago. This channel brings very beneficial content for all the pilots. This channel is the BEST real world learning about aviation. I appreciate so much what you have done so far. Your video definitely save so many pilot’s lives especially in GA world. Again, thank you for making this content.

[SmittySmithsonite]

My driving habits coincide with many of these aviation accidents. Get-there-itis being the big one. It’s human nature to just want to go home, and be home, but when aviating, we need to reprogram that part of our brains. God rest the souls of these two, and prayers for their families and friends for strength.😢 Thanks, Juan, as always, for the thousands of reports you have to pour through and post over the course of time. We all appreciate it.

[MrShobar]

Juan. Sometimes when flying to these remote airports with no nearby accomodations, I take a sleeping bag and some food and water because it may not be prudent to depart at night, I may not be able to get fuel until morning, weather problems, etc.