Can Portable Power Stations also be REAL backup UPS worthy??

Can a Portable Power Station REALLY be a UPS???

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[Ian-S.]

This is WORD FOR WORD the EXACT video I was looking all over for!

[darrenorange]

Also make sure your actual UPS can communicate with the machines you are backing up so they can shut down gracefully in the event it is needed. These power stations don't have any way to talk to your computer but the UPS can, I do this exact setup at home for my UNRAID server, if all back up is loss it will still shut down gracefully.

[PNCH]

Really cool and informative video!! I now want more videos about UPS reviews :D

[practicalguy]

A UPS would be grounded to earth also. I think many power stations are a floating ground, so that is something to consider for server equipment and your safety.

[sonictech]

If you're going to do the UPS + power station thing make sure to allow some overhead for charging the UPS and test the heck out of it.

[dancarney]

Thank you for the topic demo upfront in your video and the detail about the demos at the end of your video. I sure wish more youtubers followed that format. I agree with all you said. Most people have no clue about UPS or even a perspective of the unit of time expressed in milliseconds. Hint: Snap your fingers then divide what you heard by 1000 and you got about one (1) millisecond. I would ask that using the APP for a solar generator as a UPS one should monitor the solar generators internal battery temperature. Below 50°C (122°F) on Li-Ion not sure about LIFEPO4 chemistry.

[OnlineTherapistGroup]

So what UPS + power station do you recommend for this situation? Ideally?

[electronicartis]

any assumption on ecoflow Delta Max is it fast switching or not.

[bingbang]

your dog at 0:40 looks exactly like mine
nice video

[silverbackag]

After I finish installing a big assed SMA-based offgrid solar system for my shop, my mom's house, my future house, and another future big outbuilding, I'm going to recycle two of my parent's old Trace and Outback inverters as UPS. Huge honking units for just 3500 watts each...but highly efficient (maybe 8-10 watts standby?) and have quick power switching pass through. Gonna wire their gen ports in to my bigger system for passthrough power. Get em a couple of lifepo4 200 AH batteries (with BMS) and use existing charge controllers to treat them like a FLA battery (dumb communication) with custom parameters.

[darcsentor]

Super informative, I was wondering about exactly this.

[markniblack]

Excellent discussion of this issue and I agree with your final recommendation.

[airgunnyhighway]

I got the informations I needed. Clear and straight to the point.
Thank you

[MikeHarris]

not a real UPS then... To say it is a UPS, that is an UNINERUPTABLE power supply.. if it bumps off for a second, or even a split second that a computer bonks off, then it is not uninterruptable!!!

[richragasa]

I like the idea of keeping the ups connected to the power station. It could give me hours of power to my computer equipment. Wouldn’t using the power station always on to supplement the UPS shorten the lifespan of the battery on the power station?

[karljolley]

Thanks for the explanation, this is what I have been wondering; I presume we plug the UPS into the PowerStation. so as long as the PS has pass through it wont be working till power goes off, where my $400 ish UPS covers the gap. really is best to have the option to take the PS somewhere else as needed..

[aaa]

Power stations don't have the communication feature via USB or Serial to alert your computer that it is on backup power and to gracefully shut down. So unless you are actively using your computer / server and can manually shut it down, the Power Station will only help in short outages where it's batteries will last.

[CraigGivant]

OK so which is it? Daisy chaining is a fire hazard or the best idea since sliced bread? I personally do it, but I have read comments saying its a bad idea. My Eaton UPS will not pull power off of battery at all but my large Cyber Power works fine. Glad to see I wasn't crazy when it came to the "super" power pro. I ended up with a VigorPool and if I add a second one using their expansion cord, I'll realize more Watt Hours, higher surge, LiFePO4 cells, and a second battery when needed. Overall I'm much more happy than I was with the ZenPower er Vandure.

[agentj]

I think that would be a good test, hook up a few UPS' one at a time and see what would happen. From what I understand and used, UPS' need a pure sine input in order to recognize utility power. I think this would show the actual application and everything in action. I know it is impossible to test many UPS', but maybe just a few consumer (not enterprise/business) sizes (300-600VA, 1000-1500VA) across a few well known brands like APC, CyberPower, Tripp-Lite etc.

You are correct when you talk about using a relatively small UPS between your equipment and power station, even if it only lasts a few minutes. The UPS will react fast enough (and some, like APC XS1500 series, has adjustable reaction time) in order for the power station to switch without causing power problems on your equipment. Plus any UPS worth its weight in batteries also provide some level of surge protection too.

[redinerr]

How about daisy chaining a power station behind a UPS so that the UPS can communicate via USB but run off the power station until it drains.